Gearbox dsg - repair of automatic transmission dsg volkswagen, skoda, replacement of mechatronics, clutch. How long the DSG6 robot will live - we look at the design and reviews What is a DSG box

Many myths and legends have formed around the DSG gearbox. Motorists have heard about her problems somewhere, but they certainly cannot formulate them. Let's try to answer all the typical questions about it.

What is the peculiarity of the DSG box, how does the DSG work?

The DSG is a robotic dual-clutch transmission that allows very fast gear changes, allowing the vehicle to accelerate quickly and efficiently. A robot is, constructively, a conventional manual transmission, in which automatic gear changes.

How does an ordinary robot or mechanical box work? To shift up or down, the driver (or computer) disconnects the clutch disc from the flywheel, engages the desired gear, and reconnects the disc. While the gears are shifting, torque is not transmitted from the engine to the box, and the car loses its dynamics.

In DSG, these pauses are reduced to a minimum: one clutch is responsible for an odd number of gears (1,3,5,7), and the second for an even number (2,4,6). The car starts and the odd row disk is pressed against the rotating flywheel. The even row disc is open. While the car is accelerating in the first, the computer gives the command to turn on the second gear to the even row, and when the moment of switching comes, the disc of the odd row is disconnected and the disc of the even one is immediately turned on. Accordingly, the even row works further, and the odd row switches and prepares to start work.

"Wet" and "dry" versions of the DSG box are used in parallel. The more resilient DSG6 is able to handle a lot of torque and is put on more powerful cars. DSG7 goes to less powerful versions. Also DSG under the S-Tronic brand is put on Audi cars. Exclusively for this brand, an upgraded version of the DSG7 is offered, which retains the concept with dry clutches.

What is the difference between DSG6 and DSG7?

DSG comes in two flavors. The first, in 2003, was the DSG6 six-speed gearbox. The dual clutch in it was "wet", that is, it worked in an oil bath. The main disadvantage of the box is significant power loss due to oil. Therefore, in 2008 Volkswagen introduced a new version - DSG7. This box uses a dry clutch. It was this box that became the problem. When choosing a car with DSG, always pay attention to which type is used there - six or seven-speed. DSG6 can be taken without a doubt, but DSG7 is better left to those who are poorly versed in technology.

Car models with problematic DSG7 gearbox and alternatives with DSG6 and other automatic transmissions?

For convenience, we have collected all Volkswagen models in one table.

Special attention: Skoda Octavia with DSG7, VW Golf with DSG7, Audi A3 2014 with DSG7





Year of production

Engines with DSG7

Alternative

AUDI with DSG7

1.8 (180) 6MT and DSG6

1.4 (125) 6MT and DSG6

1.8 (160) 6MT and DSG6

2.0 (200) 6MT and DSG6

3.2 (250) 6MT and DSG6

1.8 (120) 6MT and CVT

1.8 (170) 6MT and CVT

2.0 (225) 6MT and CVT

1.8 (120) 6MT and CVT

1.8 (160) 6MT and CVT

2.0 (180) 6MT and CVT

2.0d (143) 6MT and CVT

3.2 (265) 6MT, 6AT and CVT

1.8 (170) 6MT and CVT

2.0 (225) 6MT and CVT

1.8 (160) 6MT and CVT

2.0 (180) 6MT and CVT

2.0 (211) 6MT and CVT

3.2 (265) 6MT, 6AT and CVT

2.0 (180) 6MT and CVT

2.8 (204) 6MT and CVT

2.0 (211) 6MT and 8AT

SEAT with DSG7

SKODA with DSG7

2.0 (150) 6MT and 6AT

2.0d (140) 6MT and DSG6

1.8 (152) 6MT and 6AT

1.6 (102) 5MT and 6AT

1.9 (105) 5MT and 6AT

1.6 (115) 5MT and 6AT

1.8 (152) 6MT and 6AT

2.0d (170) 6MT and DSG6

1.8 (152) 6MT and DSG6

VOLKSWAGEN, VW DSG7

Volkswagen Polo (hatch)

Volkswagen jetta

1.6 (105) 5MT and 6AT

1.9d (105) 5MT and DSG6

Volkswagen touran

2.0d (110) 6MT and DSG6

Volkswagen new beetle

Volkswagen passat

2.0 (210) 6MT and DSG6

2.0 (150) 6MT and 6AT

2.0 (200) 6MT and 6AT

Volkswagen Passat CC

Volkswagen sharan

Volkswagen Scirocco

2.0 (210) 6MT and DSG6

Volkswagen tiguan

1.4 (150) 6MT and DSG6

Volkswagen caddy

2.0d (140) 6MT and DSG6

What malfunctions and problems are typical for DSG?

The most common one is jolting when shifting gears. The clutch discs are closing too hard, causing the vehicle to jerk. Other symptoms are also common: clanking, grinding, jerking, and loss of traction in motion. The latter is especially dangerous if the car is in the process of overtaking in the oncoming lane at the moment of traction failure.

As Peter AT explained to us, the main problem of the DSG gearbox is a dry clutch. It is subject to accelerated wear, and the root of the problem lies in the incorrect algorithms of the mechatronic unit that controls the operation of the box. There are, of course, other malfunctions: the shaft sleeves and the clutch release fork occasionally wear out, the solenoid contacts come off, dirt sticks to the sensors, antifreeze gets into the oil ... But these cases are from the category of exotic.

The main thing to know: if you still bought a post-warranty vehicle with DSG7, and the box shows symptoms of a malfunction, this is not a reason to change it as a whole. The gearbox itself, that is, a set of gears, practically never fails. The box can be repaired, which will cost an order of magnitude cheaper than replacement. True, the spare parts will have to wait for several weeks - the demand for them is still small, and the sellers of spare parts do not have stocks.


What is the manufacturer's warranty for DSG box, free DSG repair and replacement?

Perhaps, in this case, it would be logical to quote literally a letter from Volkswagen Group Rus to the heads of dealer service services. “We hereby inform you about the current rules for handling customer claims for possible faults in the operation of the DSG7 gearbox. VOLKSWAGEN Group Rus LLC, meeting the wishes of customers, in order to maintain confidence in the cars of the concern, within the framework of an additional obligation, provides customer support in identifying a factory defect in the operation of the DSG 7 gearbox until the expiration of 5 (five) years or until reaching 150,000 km of run (whichever comes first) from the moment the vehicle is handed over to the first buyer. Support is provided in the form of elimination of deficiencies free of charge for the client by repairing or replacing individual gearbox components or assembly units. "

Sometimes dealers try to deny customers warranty repairs, referring to the fact that they underwent maintenance at unauthorized stations. According to the law, this cannot be a reason for refusal.

If your car is less than 5 years old and has a mileage of less than 150,000 kilometers and your dealer refuses free DSG7 repairs, please complain directly to the Volkswagen Hotline.

Also, do not give in to the persuasion of dealers to undergo some kind of scheduled DSG service. The fact is that this is an unattended box, and scheduled maintenance is a way of making money from dull customers.


Is it true that Volkswagen has eliminated all the problems with the DSG box?

It is a fact that engineers are working on DSG modernization. The software and details of the clutch unit are being improved. However, it is impossible to say for certain that the problem of accelerated wear has been solved. The problem is that Volkswagen prefers to pursue a closed policy, and publishes official information about how the box is being finalized. Although DSG's 5-year warranty no longer applies since 2014, there is no reason to say the reliability issue has been resolved.

Why is the production of cars with DSG7 continued?

The official position of the company is as follows: the box provides excellent accelerating dynamics and economy. The Germans simply ignore questions about reliability. Further, one can only assume that the reason lies in the usual business calculation. Gearbox development costs billions of euros and cannot be simply abandoned. Obviously, Volkswagen felt that it was easier to spend money on warranty repairs and spread rumors about the increased reliability of the DSG7 than to urgently transfer all their cars to DSG6, "automatic".

What to do in this situation for a simple motorist who wants to buy a Volkswagen, Skoda or Audi?

Choose a modification equipped with any other box except DSG7. True, unfortunately, the Golf is offered today only with it, or with a mechanics. Skoda Octavia has modifications with DSG6, though only diesel ones. The Polo sedan and Tiguan have versions with a traditional 6-speed automatic. In general, there is a choice, although it is narrowing.

Why not buy a car with DSG7?

Firstly, because in spite of all the positive qualities of the box, there is no point in playing the lottery and hoping that you will get a car that will not twitch when shifting gears and in which the box will not "get up" after 50 thousand mileage.

Secondly, because cars with DSG7 do not sell well on the secondary market. People who buy used cars tend to be, on average, more technical knowledgeable than new car aficionados. Most of them are well aware of the problems with the seven-speed robot, and they rightly won't want to mess with them. Of course, you can always return the car to trade-in, but with a very big discount, since the salon managers are also in the know.

In any case, the owner of a car with DSG7 will face problems and financial losses. Whether they are worth the pleasure of driving a Volkswagen, Skoda or Audi, everyone decides for himself.

When will the DSG7 be discontinued?

Volkswagen is not talking about this. There are fears that the box will live on the conveyor for a long time, since the DSG6 has been used since 2003. There are also examples of the long life of frankly unsuccessful nodes. For example, the French 4-speed automatic DP0 and its numerous derivatives: DP1, DP2, AL4, which do not tolerate overheating and are distinguished by a rare "dullness" in motion. It has been used with various modifications since the early 90s, and is still installed on Renault Sandero, Duster, Nissan Almera, and even on the relatively expensive Peugeot 408.

Unfortunately for motorists, now manufacturers generally have very little concern about the reliability of cars. The main vector of their development now is ecology. For the sake of saving one hundred grams of gasoline per 100 kilometers, various dubious technologies are being introduced, often reducing the total vehicle resource, such as direct injection, increasing the turbo pressure or the compression ratio in the cylinders.

Gearboxes are a relatively dead-end branch of development, and the DSG, paradoxically, is now at the pinnacle of progress, as it provides efficiency (and therefore the coveted environmental friendliness). The fact that the unit “lives” on average 150 thousand kilometers is of little interest to anyone. Manufacturers are not interested in the existence of a secondary market at all - they dream that people buy only new cars and throw old ones into the trash.

Therefore, sadly, but with DSG7 we have every chance to live another 5-10 years without any significant changes. And everyone will continue to pretend that this is how it should be.

Usually everyone is used to seeing a manual or automatic transmission in cars. But there is a new generation gearbox - DSG. Its structure includes both mechanics and automatic transmission. In other words, it is called a semi-automatic or dual-clutch transmission. This type has long been used in sports cars. In the production of conventional cars, it is still considered a new technology. However, the modern car enthusiast simply needs to know about the DSG gearbox - what it is and how it works.

The developers of automotive hardware, Borg Warner, decided to create a transmission that combines the qualities and characteristics of an automatic transmission and a manual transmission. They created a six-speed gearbox, but it didn't work with low-powered cars. They later came up with a seven-speed gearbox, but the clutch was dry and the robot quickly heated up. After a year of hard work, the company decided to test its development on Volkswagen vehicles. The first batch of robots was released with defects, but soon everything was fixed. DSG is now popular in today's automotive world.

Box DSG7

How does the DSG gearbox work?

At the moment there are two modifications of the transmission: a six-speed wet clutch and a seven-speed one. Each has some peculiarities or disadvantages, but more about them later.
7-speed consists of:

  1. The first output shaft.
  2. Second output shaft.
  3. Main transmission.
  4. Input shaft.
  5. Mechatronic.
  6. Oil filter.

The first cars with DSG were cars of the Volkswagen AG line. It was they who left the assembly line and announced this technology to the whole world. This gearbox is still being manufactured at the plant. So what is a DSG box? It consists of 5 shafts, which are connected by gears and 2 clutches. With this technology, they form a kind of mechanism that is very different from classic gearboxes. It is he who is responsible for the fast acceleration of the car and high speed, as in cars with mechanics.

Internal arrangement of DSG

Due to the fact that gear changes are very fast, the DSG gearbox began to be implemented in sports cars, where it is very important.

What is special about a dual-clutch transmission and manual transmission?

The newest gearbox works very quickly and smoothly. All gear changes instantly - this is the trump card for racing cars, where speed comes first. The transmission is different from the mechanics. Let's recall the principle of the manual transmission:

  1. When the driver engages the clutch, the engine is separated from the transmission, thereby stopping the flow of power to the gearbox.
  2. After moving the gearbox lever, the gear clutch transitions from one gear to another, despite the fact that they are different in size.
  3. During this process, the rotation speed of the clutch is gradually equalized, which leads to the inclusion of the next gear.
  4. When the clutch pedal is released, the transmission is reconnected to the engine, the torque is started, which turns into the rotation of the wheels of the car.

Each process is not physically felt by the driver, but if an inexperienced driver is driving, then due to the stopping of the power flow from the engine to the transmission, there is a jolt that the driver feels with the passengers in the cabin. The principle of operation of the DSG includes the process of the mechanics and the automatic transmission. There is no clutch pedal here. There is 2 automatic clutches that handle odd (first) and even (second) transmissions. The gears shift with irresistible smoothness. This is facilitated by the electronic mechatronic transmission control system.

In DSG, the gears are located on different shafts. If there was only one shaft in mechanics, then here the even and odd ones are placed on the first and second output shafts. In this case, the internal shaft is placed in the external one so that even gears work from the external one, and odd ones from the internal one.

DSG robotic box

Expert and user opinions

User reviews of the checkpoint are completely different. We propose to consider in detail all the pros and cons of this gearbox. For example, those who have used technology love it. There are a number of reasons for this:

  • less fuel is consumed. A car on a DSG box requires 10.2 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers, which is even less than in a manual transmission;
  • fast and smooth gear shifting;
  • for racing competitions, cars with a DSG box are clearly suitable, because when you turn on a gear, the next one is already ready to be activated;
  • the robotic gearbox can operate both in automatic transmission and in the manual gearshift mode for the convenience of users (like a tiptronic);
  • no loss of speed and power (almost comparable to mechanics).

The checkpoint also has a number of negative factors, which real users noticed during the use of the box. You can find negative reviews on the DSG transmission, which even discourage motorists from buying a car with a semi-automatic gearbox:


Now you know why DSG is criticized in the modern world, as well as how the installation of a gearbox can turn out when driving aggressively on the roads of large cities.

Let's summarize the above

The DSG semi-automatic transmission is a state-of-the-art technology that combines the elements of an automatic and a manual transmission in one housing. The technology is controlled by the electronic mechatronic system. Used in expensive or sports cars where you need to quickly change gears. On the one hand, it is worth taking cars with DSG, but on the other hand, this is not an option for normal road driving. After all, a car can behave unpredictably, and reliability is an irreplaceable factor that every owner of his four-wheeled friend must be sure of. The speed and smoothness of gear shifting, lower fuel consumption are, of course, good, but everything will recede into the background if the car gets into an accident due to the transmission in a traffic jam or any other accident happens.

Volkswagen's DSG transmission was ahead of its time. As one of the pioneers in the automotive market, Volkswagen has developed a DSG for series production. The DSG gearbox with non-interrupting power flow makes driving a pleasant experience, allowing dynamic acceleration on the highway without jerking.

The DSG transmission combines the strengths of an automatic and a manual transmission by automatically selecting the optimum transmission mode. This transmission allows to achieve significant fuel economy, as it always "selects" the minimum costly and at the same time the most efficient operating mode of the power unit in terms of efficiency. The epitome of ideal efficiency: when the power output of the engine is converted directly into speed.

The main advantage of the DSG is smooth acceleration without interrupting the power flow during gear changes. DSG provides direct gear shifting, dynamic acceleration for sporty travel, and reduced fuel consumption.

The Volkswagen DSG is a 6- or 7-speed gearbox for all vehicle classes Volkswagen makes and is therefore of great interest to buyers.

Sports alternative to manual transmission

Based on the results of the drive tests carried out, the new Volkswagen DSG is as dynamic as the manual transmission. This becomes clear at a glance at the speedometer needle: only a DSG-equipped vehicle can accelerate so smoothly to top speed.

With this acceleration, the driver enjoys a sporty driving experience, and smooth gear changes will increase the level of comfort. In addition, in everyday situations, such as when overtaking, the DSG improves safety with large reserves of power.

The dry-clutch transmission offers freedom of choice for any driving style. DSG is more than a simple automatic transmission. It combines the advantages of an automatic and a manual transmission. This is expressed in the fact that the driver can make a choice twice: first, he selects the DSG operating mode - normal or sport. He then chooses between automatic and manual gear shifting.

Normal DSG Mode

The robotic gearbox "reads" the driver's thoughts. When the gearshift lever is turned on to the "D", "Drive" position, the "normal mode" DSG is selected. At the same time, the necessary gears have already been selected in the box, which switch automatically in fractions of a second and without interrupting the power flow. This is the best mode for comfortable driving, since gear changes are imperceptible and no additional action from the driver is required.

DSG Sport Mode

When the transmission is shifted to sport mode "S" ("Sport"), the electronic control unit maintains lower gears. Upshifting does not occur until the vehicle is at a higher speed and the engine is cranked up.

Selection of gear ratios

The optimum shift point is achieved through the best selection of gear ratios. Accurate selection of gear ratios allows you to achieve the best dynamic characteristics of the transmission. The gearbox control unit selects the optimum shift point depending on the activated mode, engine speed, vehicle speed and accelerator pedal position.

As a result, power losses can be avoided and the economy can be increased.

Reduced fuel consumption

With this responsibility to its customers in mind, Volkswagen has developed an innovative DSG transmission that saves fuel and reduces emissions.

Combined with the TSI engine, the DSG gearbox reduces fuel consumption by 22%, thus reducing CO2 emissions. Even when compared to a classic manual transmission, DSG offers substantial fuel savings of up to 10%.

Benefits for car owners

Design solutions for the transmission with two clutches are offered both for small cars and for representatives of the "higher" segments: 7-speed DSG for engines with a torque of up to 250 N / m is more suitable for small and medium-sized cars, for example, for the Volkswagen Polo sedan in the GT, Volkswagen Passat B8, or Volkswagen Jetta in the Trendline and Highline trim levels. The 6-speed DSG gearbox for engines up to 350 Nm meets the expectations of buyers interested in high-end vehicles with more powerful engines, such as the Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4TSI BlueMotion.

  • With the DSG, Volkswagen has provided drivers who prefer a dynamic, sporty driving style with acceleration without interrupting the flow of power, with almost imperceptible gear changes.
  • The DSG gearbox is important for those who care about the environment, which helps reduce fuel consumption and CO2 emissions.
  • Drivers who spend a lot of time behind the wheel can relax while driving their DSG vehicle while enjoying the ease of driving.
  • New high-tech developments from Volkswagen have enabled DSG to achieve the best possible combination of the performance advantages of manual and automatic transmissions.

What provides the comfort of driving a car with DSG?

  • Smooth acceleration;
  • Continuous power flow;
  • Additional functions of gear shifting;
  • Large power reserves;

How does the DSG gearbox improve the economy of the car?

  • By ensuring rational driving, DSG reduces fuel consumption and helps to protect the environment;
  • The DSG helps to utilize the full power output of the engine, as the gearbox control unit selects the optimum timing for shifting.

The robotic transmission with two dry clutches DSG 7 is one of the most common gearboxes installed on VAG cars today. On our website, we have already talked in detail about the principle of operation and the history of the origin of DSG, today we would like to talk in detail about which cars are installed DSG seven, or rather, make a detailed list by brands and models, we hope that this information will be useful to you.

But first, it should be said that the DSG 7 DQ200 is installed on front-wheel drive vehicles equipped with gasoline turbo engines with a transverse arrangement. Often the volume of such engines does not exceed 1.8 liters, and the power is 180 hp. and 250 Nm of torque. This transmission model uses dual mass dry clutches. This design solution is much more reliable than the flywheel that was used in the DSG-6. With the help of the updated firmware, the manufacturer reduced the maximum load on the box when the gas pedal is fully depressed. This allows you to avoid overloads and many breakdowns. If you are a fan of VAG cars, you can safely choose one of the following models with DSG 7 DQ200, because this transmission has all the advantages of robotic boxes, but at the same time it is devoid of many typical disadvantages of previous versions.

Types of gearboxes DSG 7

Seven-speed robotic gearboxes are available in several modifications and are designed for different types of vehicles.

The simplest dry clutch robot is labeled DQ200. This transmission is designed for low-power powertrains. This gearbox can be found on many front-wheel drive vehicles that are used as a daily means of transportation.

The DQ500 is a wet clutch robot. It is more reliable and withstands more intense loads than its predecessor. Such a box can withstand a torque of up to 600 N * m and is used for more powerful power units. Suitable for all-wheel drive vehicles.

Previous robots were designed for machines with a transverse motor. The DL501 and DL382 wet clutch gearboxes are suitable for longitudinally mounted engines.

Separately, I would like to say about the new 7-speed robot DQ381. This box represents an improved version of DSG 7, which allows to reduce the amount of harmful emissions into the atmosphere, has a reduced coefficient of friction between parts. The manufacturer assures that it is more reliable than its predecessors, but it is too early to judge this, time will tell.

List of cars with DSG 7

SEAT

  • SEAT Ibiza IV 1.2 105 HP (2008 - 2012 onwards)
  • SEAT Ibiza IV 1.6 105 HP (2008 - 2012 onwards)
  • SEAT Ibiza IV restyling 1.2 105 hp (2012 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Ibiza IV restyling 1.6 105 hp (2012 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Ibiza FR IV restyling 1.4 150 hp (2012 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Ibiza IV restyling 1.0 110 hp (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Leon II restyling 1.8 160 hp (2009 - 2012 onwards)
  • SEAT Leon III 1.2 105 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Leon III 1.4 122 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Leon III 1.4 140 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Leon III 1.8 180 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Toledo 1.4 125 HP (2012 - 2017 onwards)
  • SEAT Toledo 1.6 90 HP (2012 - 2017 onwards)

Skoda

  • Skoda Fabia II restyling 1.2 105 hp (2012 - 2015 onwards)
  • Skoda Fabia III 1.2 110 HP (2014 - 2017 onwards)

Fabia rs

  • Skoda Fabia RS II 1.4 180 HP (2010 - 2014 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia A5 1.4 122 HP (2008 - 2013 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia A5 1.8 160 HP (2008 - 2013 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia A7 1.4 150 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia A7 station wagon 1.4 150 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia A7 1.8 180 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia A7 1.8 180 HP station wagon (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Octavia 1.4 TSI 2019 MY
  • Skoda Octavia 1.8 TSI 2019 MY
  • Skoda Rapid 1.4 TSI 2019 MY

Roomster

  • Skoda Roomster 1.2 105 HP (2010 - 2015 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb II 1.8 160 HP (2008 - 2013 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb II restyling 1.8 152 hp (2013 - 2015 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb II restyling station wagon 1.8 152 hp (2013 - 2015 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb III 1.4 150 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb III 1.8 180 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb III station wagon 1.8 180 hp (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Skoda Superb 2.0 TSI 2 WD 2019 MY
  • Skoda Superb 2.0 TDI 2 WD 2019 MY
  • Skoda Superb 2.0 TDI 4 WD 2019 MY
  • Skoda Yeti 1.2 105 HP (2009 - 2014 onwards)
  • Skoda Yeti 1.4 122 HP (2009 - 2014 onwards)
  • Skoda Yeti restyling 1.4 122 hp (2014 - 2017 onwards)

Volkswagen

  • Volkswagen Beetle A5 1.2 105 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Beetle A5 1.4 160 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf VI 1.2 105 HP (2009 - 2012 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf VI 1.4 122 HP (2009 - 2012 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf VI 1.6 102 HP (2009 - 2012 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf VII 1.4 125 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf VII 1.4 150 HP (2013 - 2017 onwards)

Golf plus

  • Volkswagen Golf Plus II restyling 1.2 105 hp (2009 - 2014 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf Plus II restyling 1.4 122 hp (2009 - 2014 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Golf Plus II restyling 1.6 102 hp (2009 - 2014 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Jetta V 1.2 105 HP (2005 - 2011 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Jetta VI 1.4 122 HP (2011 - 2014 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Jetta VI 1.4 50 HP (2011 - 2014 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Jetta VI restyling 1.4 125 hp (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Jetta VI restyling 1.4 150 hp (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B6 1.4 122 HP (2005 - 2011 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B6 1.8 152 HP (2005 - 2011 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B6 Estate 1.4 122 HP (2005 - 2011 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B6 Estate 1.8 152 HP (2005 - 2011 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B7 1.4 122 HP (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B7 1.4 150 HP (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B7 1.8 152 HP (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B7 1.4 Estate 122 HP (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B7 1.4 Estate 150 HP (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B7 1.8 Estate 152 HP (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B8 1.4 125 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B8 1.4 150 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B8 1.8 180 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B8 Estate 1.4 150 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat B8 Estate 1.8 180 HP (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat 1,8 TDI 2018-19 MY

The new Passat, which was released in 2019, is also available with a robotic 7-speed gearbox, but these models use the new DSG-7 DQ 381, equipped with a dual wet clutch.

Passat cc

  • Volkswagen Passat CC 1.8 152 HP (2008 - 2011 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Passat CC restyling 1.8 152 hp (2011 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Polo V 1.2 90 HP (2014 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Polo V 1.2 110 HP (2014 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Polo V 1.4 150 HP (2014 - 2017 onwards)
  • (2015 - 2017 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Polo 1.4 TSI 2018-19 MY

Scirocco

  • Volkswagen Scirocco III 1.4 122 HP (2009 - 2015 onwards)
  • Volkswagen Scirocco III 1.4 160 HP (2009 - 2015 onwards)

Whatever they say about DSG, but we can find them on the most popular car models of different model years. The manufacturer is improving the robotic transmission, while maintaining all the advantages of this box and eliminating the typical "sores". If a few years ago many were afraid to buy cars with a robot, today there are more and more people wishing to become their owners. Time and the experience of car owners prove that if the rules of operation of this transmission are followed, it rarely brings unpleasant surprises.

Korean engineers followed the German manufacturers. Already now we can meet Kia and Hyundai cars on which a seven-speed DCT robot with two clutches is installed.

The popularity of DSG is immense. VAG assembles dual clutch boxes in all passenger cars. We will meet them at Audi, Volkswagen, Skoda and Seat. It is the fastest mechanism of its kind on the market, however, it is not without its drawbacks. Problems begin at 150-200 thousand kilometers. Taking proper care of your machine can extend the life of your machine.

DSG automatic transmission is much weaker than a torque converter!

The difference between a classic automatic and a DSG is significant. First, are the clutch and converter responsible for shifting certain gears? the latest incarnations of the hydrokinetic body work smoothly, without unnecessary delays. A lot also depends on the software. In this case, if the user has followed the recommendations of specialists, the converter and clutch may over time. In the worst case, we will have to restore the transmission for about 3-4.5 thousand zlotys. In Mercedes and Lexus in the 80s and 90s, this mechanism functioned flawlessly for 500-800 thousand kilometers.

DSG is much faster, providing better dynamics and lower fuel consumption, but costly problems arise after a few years.

As conceived by the creators, the DSG is free from defects typical of older designs. Here we will not encounter delay when changing gears or an obvious delay when descending. The secret of German construction is in two couplings. One of them is responsible for shifting even gears, and the other is responsible for odd gears. This always prepares a different mode, which significantly reduces the time required for the change. As a result, the driver experiences virtually no disruption to the power supply to the wheels at all times.

Features of 6-7 speed DSG gearboxes

Seven-speed or six-speed gearboxes were used depending on the power available to the drive unit. Weaker engines (up to 250 Nm) could work with a 7-speed version, stronger ones were combined only with a 6-speed gearbox. Fast gear changes (a few milliseconds) are not the only benefits DSG provides. Contrary to its appearance, the automatic mechanism does not contribute to an increase in combustion. Quite the opposite. Versions equipped with a dual-clutch automatic transmission boast lower fuel consumption than analogue models with a manual transmission. Unfortunately, everything is up to time, as well as the correct operation of the mentioned construction.

Oil change in an automatic transmission DSG

For the life of every machine, including DSG, the way of working and the corresponding professional service are important. Moving out from under the lights at full power only accelerates clutch wear, and the same result is negligent.

In the case of the gearbox as well as the engine, an oil change, which is responsible for the correct lubrication of moving parts, is critical. While no one forgets to change the engine oil, some manufacturers do not recommend changing the lubricant in the box. In their opinion, there is enough oil for the entire service life of the transmission. Nothing could be more wrong. The chest manufacturers themselves determine the exchange intervals. Such a service operation in the machine removes all contamination from the inside and increases the service life of the mechanism.

VAG recommends regular oil changes only in six-speed gearboxes with wet clutches. Such a service in an Authorized Service Center costs from 2 thousand rubles. (from 1 thousand rubles. at an unauthorized station) and it is recommended every 60,000 kilometers. According to experts, after a similar time, we should change the oil and hydraulic fluid of the mechatronics also in the seven-stage version. The cost is about 1 thousand rubles.

Clutches in automatic transmission DSG

As with a manual transmission, with DSG transmissions, the clutch assembly will wear out over time. Unfortunately, they do not turn out to be very durable. In a 7-speed automatic, they can withstand about 150-200 thousand kilometers. In the 6-speed version, a little longer, 250-300 thousand. After this time, there are jerks when starting and changing gears, knocking during the operation of the chest and a delay in changing individual gears. In this situation, it is better to replace the clutch, which will be from 50 thousand rubles. Unfortunately there is no other alternative.

Complex mechanical device DSG boxes - problems

Another serious problem is the complexity of the mechatronics control mechanism. A harbinger of costly failure is the unusual work of the chest. In addition to jerking, it is difficult to drive in individual gears when the gearbox is changing gears unnecessarily. Mechatronics and hydraulics are responsible for controlling the operation of the clutches. Only in some cases can a defect be eliminated for several hundred zlotys, while replacing a set of components will cost about 110 thousand rubles.

However, this is not the end of the attractions. The DSG also features a dual-mass flywheel to absorb engine vibrations. It must be replaced with a set of couplings, which requires an additional 35 thousand rubles.

Conclusions about the DSG box

DSG requires the skill and exceptional precision of a craftsman for any repair. When choosing a workshop, it is worth checking whether the specialists have the appropriate qualifications, the right equipment and good reviews. When purchasing a used vehicle with a DSG dual-clutch transmission, the item's past must be carefully checked for serviceability. If the mileage is about 200,000 kilometers, this may mean an imminent, expensive DSG box repair.