Logan weak points. All owner reviews about Renault Logan I. Suspension resource: back and forth

Renault Logan is a car that has quite a lot of obvious advantages, and is operated by millions of people around the world. But despite all the flawlessness, Logan has some weaknesses. These shortcomings and problem nodes arise mainly due to the use of inexpensive materials when assembling a car. We will consider the main problem areas in the infographic.

  • Sticking of the gas pedal at sub-zero temperatures. In cold weather, the braid of the pedal cable is deformed and can cause the cable to get stuck. In winter, it is required to lubricate the cable with machine frost-resistant oil.
  • Trouble of the engine and malfunctions. It occurs already after 10-15 thousand kilometers, if the fuel is not systematically filled with high quality.
  • Rapid wear of the camshaft seal.
  • The pump can fail already at 30-40 thousand of the distance traveled.

  • During operation, wipers wear out quickly, a strong creak appears. Replacement required.
  • Poor paint quality. Chips and scratches can appear quickly enough.
  • The front door stoppers are loose and loosen.
  • Wheel bearings rarely live longer than 30 thousand kilometers due to lack of lubrication in the front wheel bearings.
  • At a run of 10-15 thousand shock absorbers fail.

Transmission

  • Crunch when reverse gear is engaged - due to a design feature (there is no reverse gear synchronizer).
  • The upper mounts of the headlights - crack even from bad roads.
  • Front foglights fall out from vibration.

Brake system

  • Squeaking and further failure of the rear brake force distributor. It starts with a run of 10 thousand km and requires lubrication every 10 thousand km.
  • Uneven front brake pad wear.

Inaccurate information — otezdil Logan 40,000 km, there is a weak point crankshaft oil seal front, rear, left inner anther drive. Bearings with a run of 73,000, still good, I also disagree with the rest.

Outdated stereotypes, 90% of the information is not true

logan 2010 mileage 41000km. I own 5 years. Great car. no damage, no repair

Phase 1 never had such problems, it started with phase 2, when the power wires were shortened by a few millimeters.

I can’t say that everything is true, I will only agree with the coloring and add steering tips.

Breaking the wires of the signal button on the left steering column switch is a common failure. And not only not Logans, but also on other Renaults, where the same node is found.

Thanks for the idea of ​​strong places, worth considering.

Phase 1 2008, mileage 85k, all rubber bands were changed for 70k (bushings, racks, salent blocks) as well as brake discs. We welded a muffler, rotted away (even faster it rotted away than there was a breakdown) Where are the statistics of strong points? at minus 38 without warming up, it started the first time

Logan 1.6 16th grade 2011. From the repair, not counting the scheduled maintenance, the replacement of the front brake discs every 80 thousand. mileage, 120 thousand. replacement of steering rods and front hub bearings, 140 thousand. replacement of the resonator, 160 thousand. replacement of ball bearings and zad.kolodok. 200 thousand replacement of silent blocks and shock absorbers, wiring in the sound signal sensor I re-solder every 40 thousand. I travel around Moscow.

Thank you, Pavel, for sharing with us, and with all the owners of Logan, your breakdowns. Such remarks will certainly take note of more than one loganovod.

Renault Logan 2008, engine 1.4 - 8 cells. Mileage for 2014 - 121 thousand km. I don’t consider this a breakdown, but my foglights cracked after 3 months, one by one.

I didn't even change it under warranty, I just turned it off. The windshield cracked at 45 thousand, and it cracked not from a stone hitting it, but cracked from under the left wiper - a crack went. Well, light bulbs burn out everywhere and always. Yes, the sinking of the gas pedal began about half a year later, I was terribly scared))). And the first serious breakdown happened at 75 thousand, the timing broke. The result - the valves were bent - Repair -16 thousand. And so the norms. The suspension is excellent, consumables for oils and filters are very small, and I change everything myself. And forgot. At the current moment, almost all the illumination of the front panel buttons burned out - only the illumination of the right power window remained, the rest does not light up, but replacing all these buttons is quite expensive. So I see no reason to change. Good car. anything is better than our Bucket-Vaz.

Renault Logan 2011 dvig. 1.6 8 cells Mileage 81,000 km. First breakdown 31,000 km. the signal button stopped working — a replacement for the steering switch under warranty. Second failure 60,000 km. signal stopped working again. I didn’t change anything, I took it off, soldered it, and removed the factory disease with a soldering iron, melted a groove for the wire inside and I think it won’t break again. Third breakdown 75,000 km. the thermostat began to open earlier, the car did not warm up to operating temperature, 3-4 divisions did not light up, I replaced it myself for 15-20 minutes. I changed the belts at 80,000 from the officials, at 60,000 I didn’t see the point, they looked better than new ones. Door locks creaked on potholes, it is treated by installing silent locks or simply with electrical tape. Wedging of the gas cable can be in severe frosts, it is felt that the pedal is pressed with small “checkers”, but at the same time it does not hang back. I replaced the foglights, took phase 1 from Logan, the H8 lamp, I don’t want to spend on native psx 24w lamps, but they shine badly. I don't understand how they can fall out. There is a crunch of the rear gear with a sharp turn on, you need to pause for 2-3 seconds after depressing the clutch and there will be no cod. Brakes hodovka rack and so on, which is not changed or repaired. In general, a reliable car, it does not have so many weak points, at least in my case.

The information was selected on the basis of reviews and comments of Logan owners on thematic forums, blogs and websites. “From the ceiling” no one came up with anything, all of the above diseases manifested themselves in certain car owners (naturally, not on one car at the same time).

Sticking of the gas pedal in sub-zero temperatures — it happens but rarely 1 time per winter at -35. Trouble engine on gasoline did not notice the gas when the engine is cold. Rapid wear of the camshaft seal did not change the mileage of 107 thousand. The pump can fail already at 30-40, I did not change anything. Windshield wipers wear out quickly during operation - it depends on the climate and frequency of use. Poor paint quality. Chips and scratches can appear quickly enough - this is not a disadvantage, it also depends on where the car drives. The front door limiters are not tightened and the mileage of 107 thousand is unscrewed, everything is in place. Wheel bearings rarely live longer than 30 thousand km changed to 107 along with the brake drums on the handbrake traveled)))). At a run of 10-15 thousand shock absorbers fail. also depends on the quality of our roads if the pit is in the pit and drives everything like a pit, maybe the front struts changed twice for 60 and 107 rear 1 time for 100 thousand Crunch when reverse gear is engaged - due to a design feature (there is no reverse gear synchronizer) there is such a thing, but for me does not interfere. The upper mounts of the headlights - crack even from bad roads. Front foglights fall out from vibration. Where does such data come from? Squeaking and further failure of the rear brake force distributor. Starts with a run of 10 thousand km and requires lubrication every 10 thousand. Uneven wear of the front brake pads. It is also not clear where such data comes from.?

I would like comments from the owners of Logan on malfunctions during operation

Watch an interesting video on this topic

Renault Logan second generation - the heir to one of the most successful cars of the past.
We find out if he is as reliable as his progenitor.

In the first years of the Togliatti assembly, the accuracy of fitting body elements fluctuated greatly. In many cars, for example, the driver's door and trunk lid were poorly adjusted (it sometimes even rubbed against the bumper). But even in the absence of obvious signs of a poor fit, it is better to paste over the corners of the edges with a protective film at the trunk lid. After all, the bumper in any case plays a significant role when driving at high speeds. By the way, this also applies to cars of other brands.

The second generation Renault Logan reached our market a couple of years later than the European one. A lot of time was spent on the localization of production at AVTOVAZ. Unlike the cars of the first generation, the Sandero hatchback appeared simultaneously with the sedan, a bit later its cross-version also got on the conveyor.

During the presence of the model in Russia, the manufacturer revised its modifications several times, shuffling engines and gearboxes. This year, the sedan and hatchback were restyled, and the Logan Stepway appeared, for which even a CVT became available. Apparently, in this way Renault wants to return some of the customers who were lured away by competitors (Volkswagen and Hyundai / Kia) thanks to a more thoughtful policy.

The friendly interior and exterior of the new Logan certainly attracted new customers and was of great interest to the owners of cars of the previous generation, who are ready to change to a more recent car that has retained the genes of its predecessor. Opinions were divided: some positively assessed the changes, others noted a drop in quality compared to the “first” Logan, including due to the relocation of production from Moscow (Renault Russia plant) to Tolyatti, to AVTOVAZ.

FEATURES - ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES

In addition to the front part of the body, bulging rear arches suffer from “sandblasting”. It is advisable to protect weak points in time with an armor film.

Paint quality is mediocre. The layer thickness is sufficient, but the durability is weak. Chips form quickly, with abrasive polishing of the body it is very easy to break through the layer.

Sometimes on machines of 2014, there were ridiculous assembly flaws.
In some cars, the air conditioning drain pipe was incorrectly laid and water accumulated on the floor at the feet of the front passenger, in others, the door trim was installed incorrectly. There is a known case when the assemblers mixed up the brake lines that came up to the ABS unit.

Quite often, the dipped beam and daytime running lights burn out. Servicemen have not yet figured out the reasons.

The only serious sore in the suspension is the low ball resource in the front levers.
Often they do not even overcome 50,000 km. Ball joints cannot be changed separately, so you have to buy levers as an assembly. Fortunately, they cost quite reasonable money.

The sore that migrated from the "first" Logan is weak steering tips. Often they have to be changed at a run of up to 50,000 km. Tie rods typically last twice as long. The rest of the steering is no problem; malfunctions of the power steering pump and steering gear (racks) are a rarity.

Front and rear shock absorbers last a long time. Interestingly, the shock absorbers and springs from the first generation machines are suitable for the second generation Logan. These elements are different, but freely stand on the seats. Some owners resort to such a replacement.

The rear suspension is almost eternal. Silent blocks go for a long time, and there is nothing more to break.

SHRUS anthers often fog up and leak. Even if the resulting fogging stops progressing, this does not mean that you can forget about it. If the cause is not eliminated in time and the lubricant is not replenished, it will be necessary to change the corresponding CV joint, and sometimes the drive assembly.

According to the servicemen, the original front brake pads have an unnecessarily harsh composition, and they quickly wear down the discs. Therefore, it is often necessary to change both consumables at the same time.

Door skins often rub door panels down to metal, creating pockets of corrosion. This is especially true for cars of the first years of production.

The steering wheel is subject to the greatest wear in the cabin. And this applies to all versions, regardless of modifications. Many owners have time to update it during the warranty period.

Quite quickly overwritten and the handle of the manual transmission lever.

If you close your eyes to the rapid abrasion of the steering wheel and gear knob (common sores of many cars, and not only the budget segment), Logan's interior is doing well. The quality of finishing materials corresponds to the class of the car, and they retain their presentation for a long time.
The salon is not quiet. This is the fault of poor noise insulation and highly floating build quality at AvtoVAZ in the early years of production (“crickets”). There were much fewer questions for the first generation Logans, assembled at the Moscow Avtoframos (now Renault Russia).

Version history:

ON THE CONVEYOR: since 2014
BODY: sedan, five-door hatchback
RUSSIAN RANGE OF ENGINES: gasoline - R4.1.2 l (75 hp); 1.6 l (82.102 and 114 hp)
GEARBOX: M5, A4, P5 DRIVE: front
RESTYLING: 2018 - the exterior has been refreshed: new headlights and LED daytime running lights have appeared, the front bumper and radiator grille have been redesigned, as well as fog lamp covers, new body colors and alloy wheel designs have become available; the steering wheel has been changed and new functions of the controls have been added
CRASH TESTS: 2013, EuroNCAP, overall rating - four stars: protection of adult passengers - 80%; child protection - 79%; pedestrian protection - 57%; security assistance systems - 55%

Cars with 1.2 engine (75 hp)- a rarity in Russia. In the first years of sales, this motor was intended exclusively for Sandero in the basic configuration, and then it was completely removed from our market due to the lack of demand for such machines. Accordingly, there is not enough statistical data on how this engine behaved under the hood of Logan. But on Renault models that were delivered to Russia before him (for example, Clio and Symbol), he proved himself well.

Time-tested eight-valve engine 1.6 (82 hp) of the K7M series migrated to the "second" Logan from its predecessor with minor changes. The fresh unit has a different camshaft and converter installed, it was programmed to comply with Euro-5 standards.
The rest is the same reliable, indestructible engine. It remained so even after the localization of production in Togliatti. The transition to the Euro-5 eco-level significantly strangled the engine, and some owners began to have difficulty with a cold start in the winter. The manufacturer quickly released a fresh firmware, which in most cases eliminated the problem of floating idle speed on a cold engine.

In 2015, Renault revised the engine maintenance schedule, increasing the timing belt change intervals from 60,000 to 90,000 km. However, the elements of the mechanism remained the same. Therefore, we recommend that you adhere to the old regulations in order to ensure that problems are avoided. Practice has shown that overrun often leads to a broken belt and a meeting of pistons with valves. This also applies to the sixteen-valve 1.6 engine with a power of 102 hp. (designation K4M).

Renault 1.6 engine (102 hp) K4M series also did not undergo significant changes compared to the unit of the time of the "first" Logan. This is still a solid motor, albeit with a Russian residence permit. However, it was more capricious than on the younger K7M, the initial firmware for Euro-5 showed itself. Difficulties with cold starting and floating idle are much more common. The updated software released by the manufacturer solved the first problem, but many owners still had trouble with the turnover, although to a lesser extent W penalties. In this case, sometimes it helps to replace cracked gaskets in the intake manifold and throttle valve. Due to air leakage, the idle speed either floats, or hangs, or spontaneously jumps in various driving modes.

On vehicles with a mileage of 100,000 km, the sealing ring of the phase shifter solenoid located on the valve cover begins to leak. This usually reveals obvious oil fogging near the filler neck.

Motor 1.6 (114 hp) H4M series (aka HR16DE) became available for Logans in 2015. This time proven timing chain engine has a good reputation. He is known for such Renault-Nissan models as Note and Qashqai, as well as Fluence.

The motor is reliable - it works without repairs for at least 200,000 km. However, stbit will reduce the manufacturer's recommended oil change interval from 15,000 to 10,000 km. In Russian conditions, overrun can provoke the occurrence of oil scraper piston rings after 100,000 km of run, as well as reduce the life of the chain, which, with careful operation, requires replacement only during engine overhaul.

The Logan and the restyled Duster were initially equipped with a Russian-assembled HR16DE engine. Production was localized at a plant in Togliatti. To date, no shortcomings of domestic motors have been recorded in comparison with foreign ones.

Four-speed automatic DP2- a follower of the AL4 / DP0 unit (a joint development of the Peugeot-Citroen and Renault concerns), which has a mediocre reputation. Manufacturers were not able to completely cure congenital sores, but still significantly increased the reliability of the box.
Automatic DP requires careful handling. He does not like high loads, is very sensitive even to slight overheating and is intended exclusively for urban use. Therefore, we must remember (especially for owners of Sandero Stepway crossovers) that the passion for driving on bad roads with frequent slippage significantly reduces the resource of this unit. However, subject to gentle operation and regular (every 60,000-80,000 km) oil changes in the unit, it can last up to 200,000 km.

One of the undefeated sores of DP is the short life of the solenoids that control the pressure in the hydraulic system of the machine. Their malfunction immediately causes jolts and jerks when shifting gears. Often this happens up to 100,000 km. With such ailments of the machine, it is very important not to postpone a visit to the service - do not lose the chance to get off with a little blood.
Usually both solenoids are changed so as not to climb into the unit again soon.
At high loads and overheating, the friction clutches burn out first of all in the DP machine: the performance of the cooling system is low. Moreover, in the Logan family, the box is deprived of an additional heat exchanger, which Duster has. And this is another reason to be wary of the Sandero Stepway crossover label. A high-quality overhaul of the DP will cost 80,000-100,000 rubles.

JH3 series five-speed manual transmission very reliable and hassle free. Usually malfunctions are associated with inadequate operation. To extend the life of the unit, servicemen recommend changing the oil in it at least every 100,000 km.

Robot with single-plate clutch Easy "R built on the basis of a JH3 mechanical box. This is a joint brainchild of Renault and ZF. The robot was paired exclusively with a 1.6 engine with a power of 82 hp. This configuration appeared in mid-2015 and did not last long due to low demand.

Due to the small number of cars sold and poor statistics, it is difficult to judge the reliability and sores of Easy "R. In fact, this robot is identical to its counterparts from other manufacturers and has similar weaknesses. Usually, the mechanical and control (actuators) parts do not bother the owners, which you can’t say about some algorithms of the box that cause discomfort, and about a small clutch resource.These are the two main unpleasant features of all single-disk robots.

WORD TO THE SELLER
Alexander Bulatov, Senior Manager of Used Car Appraisal Department at U Service

Logan occupies a special niche in the segment of B-class cars. Apart from representatives of the domestic auto industry, it is the most budgetary player that has no direct competitors. This is a pragmatic choice for buyers who want a simple and cheap, but at the same time reliable car. Therefore, Logan's liquidity in the secondary market is very high. A wide target audience is ready to put up with its frank budget.
All modifications of the car are sold well. However, less
the Sandero hatchback and cars with a robotic box are in demand by buyers. Russians still prefer sedans or cross-versions of hatchbacks and are justifiably wary of versions with a single-disc robot. Cars in poor configurations, without air conditioning and other options necessary to create minimal comfort, also sell poorly.
The most liquid Logan with a 1.6 engine (82 hp) paired with a manual, in a good configuration.

I recommend this particular version as the most rational purchase. The car most fully reflects the concept of Logan and loses very little in price. Do not consider cars more expensive than 400,000 rubles. Already for this money on the market you can find many more interesting options that will be only a couple of years older.

Despite the high liquidity, scammers do not like Logans. However, there are enough taxi cars on the market. Therefore, do not be lazy to fully check the looked after cars in databases.

COST OF SERVICE

TOTAL
The second generation Renault Logan is comparable to its predecessor in terms of reliability and maintenance costs. It's still a solid, reliable car. You will have to put up with some sores and the image of a budget car, but its content will not hit your pocket. It is advisable to refrain from buying a car with a machine gun that has clocked up a fair amount of kilometers. And bypass the cars of the first year of production: the quality of their assembly is very floating.

Renault Logan is a car that has quite a lot of obvious advantages, and is operated by millions of people around the world. But despite all the flawlessness, Logan has some weak spots. These shortcomings and problem nodes arise mainly due to the use of inexpensive materials when assembling a car. We will consider the main problem areas in the infographic.

Engine

  • Sticking of the gas pedal at sub-zero temperatures. In cold weather, the braid of the pedal cable is deformed and can cause the cable to get stuck. In winter, it is required to lubricate the cable with machine frost-resistant oil.
  • Engine tripping and. It occurs already after 10-15 thousand kilometers, if the fuel is not systematically filled with high quality.
  • Rapid wear of the camshaft seal.
  • The pump can fail already at 30-40 thousand of the distance traveled.

Body

  • During operation, wipers wear out quickly, a strong creak appears. Replacement required.
  • Poor paint quality. Chips and can appear quickly enough.
  • The front door stoppers are loose and loosen.

Chassis

  • Wheel bearings rarely live longer than 30 thousand kilometers due to lack of lubrication.
  • On a run of 10-15 thousand, they fail.

Transmission

  • Crunch when reverse gear is engaged - due to a design feature (there is no reverse gear synchronizer).

headlights

  • The upper mounts of the headlights - crack even from bad roads.
  • Front foglights fall out from vibration.

Brake system

  • Squeaking and further failure of the rear brake force distributor. It starts with a run of 10 thousand km and requires lubrication every 10 thousand km.
  • Uneven wear.

see also

Did not find an answer to your question?

Ask in the comments. We will answer for sure!

    2019-07-19 17:30:36

    Mileage 60,000 km - the only thing that was abnormal - it was a torn boot on the gearshift lever. There were no more problems!

    2019-02-07 15:38:13

    Maybe because I have a DACIA Logan, not Renault, then this whole list does not fit my car (mileage 230t.)

    2019-02-07 15:35:49

    13 years mileage 130 thousand just now replacing the pump and a year ago the Stoics plus replacing ball joints three times the rest is better than fret

    Vladislav

    2017-02-03 09:40:28

    Inaccurate information - I drove 40,000 km on Logan, there is a weak point in the crankshaft oil seal front, rear, left inner boot of the drive. Bearings with a run of 73,000, still good, I also disagree with the rest.

    2017-02-02 14:28:28

    Outdated stereotypes, 90% of the information is not true

    2017-01-22 07:57:22

    logan 2010 mileage 41000km. I own 5 years. Great car. no damage, no repair

    2016-11-24 08:39:40

    Phase 1 never had such problems, it started with phase 2, when the power wires were shortened by a few millimeters.

    2016-06-24 12:14:28

    I can’t say that everything is true, I will only agree with the coloring and add steering tips.

    Gregory

    2015-07-14 08:49:57

    Breaking the wires of the signal button on the left steering column switch is a common failure. And not only not Logans, but also on other Renaults, where the same node is found.

    Ivan atlib.ru

    2015-07-09 13:17:05

    Thanks for the idea of ​​strong places, worth considering.

    2015-07-09 11:26:50

    Phase 1 2008, mileage 85k, all rubber bands were changed for 70k (bushings, racks, salent blocks) as well as brake discs. We welded a muffler, rotted away (even faster it rotted away than there was a breakdown) Where are the statistics of strong points? at minus 38 without warming up, it started the first time

    Alexander Sukhinin

    2015-03-11 22:06:20

    Logan 1.6 16th grade 2011. From the repair, not counting the scheduled maintenance, the replacement of the front brake discs every 80 thousand. mileage, 120 thousand. replacement of steering rods and front hub bearings, 140 thousand. replacement of the resonator, 160 thousand. replacement of ball bearings and zad.kolodok. 200 thousand replacement of silent blocks and shock absorbers, wiring in the sound signal sensor I re-solder every 40 thousand. I travel around Moscow.

    2014-12-24 12:43:32

    Thank you, Pavel, for sharing with us, and with all the owners of Logan, your breakdowns. Such remarks will certainly take note of more than one loganovod.

    Pavel Petrukhin

    2014-12-24 11:03:31

    Renault Logan 2008, engine 1.4 - class 8 Mileage for 2014 - 121 thousand km. I don’t consider this a breakdown, but my foglights cracked after 3 months, one by one. I didn't even change it under warranty, I just turned it off. The windshield cracked at 45 thousand, and it cracked not from a stone hitting it, but cracked from under the left wiper - a crack went. Well, light bulbs burn out everywhere and always. Yes, the sinking of the gas pedal began about half a year later, I was terribly scared))). And the first serious breakdown happened at 75 thousand, the timing broke. The result - the valves were bent - Repair -16 thousand. And so the norms. The suspension is excellent, consumables for oils and filters are very small, and I change everything myself. And forgot. At the current moment, almost all the illumination of the front panel buttons burned out - only the illumination of the right power window remained, the rest does not light up, but replacing all these buttons is quite expensive. So I see no reason to change. Good car. anything is better than our Bucket-Vaz.

    2014-10-27 17:07:11

    Renault Logan 2011 dvig. 1.6 8 cells Mileage 81,000 km. First breakdown 31,000 km. the signal button stopped working - replacement for the steering switch under warranty. Second failure 60,000 km. signal stopped working again. I didn’t change anything, I took it off, soldered it, and removed the factory disease with a soldering iron, melted a groove for the wire inside and I think it won’t break again. Third breakdown 75,000 km. the thermostat began to open earlier, the car did not warm up to operating temperature, 3-4 divisions did not light up, I replaced it myself for 15-20 minutes. I changed the belts at 80,000 from the officials, at 60,000 I didn’t see the point, they looked better than new ones. Door locks creaked on potholes, it is treated by installing silent locks or simply with electrical tape. Wedging of the gas cable can be in severe frosts, it is felt that the pedal is pressed with small "checkers", but at the same time it does not hang back. I replaced the foglights, took phase 1 from Logan, the H8 lamp, I don’t want to spend on native psx 24w lamps, but they shine badly. I don't understand how they can fall out. There is a crunch of the rear gear with a sharp turn on, you need to pause for 2-3 seconds after depressing the clutch and there will be no cod. Brakes hodovka rack and so on, which is not changed or repaired. In general, a reliable car, it does not have so many weak points, at least in my case.

    Sergey Ivanovich

    2014-07-15 14:25:59

    The information was selected on the basis of reviews and comments of Logan owners on thematic forums, blogs and websites. "From the ceiling" no one came up with anything, all of the above diseases manifested themselves in certain car owners (naturally, not on one car at the same time).

    2014-07-15 12:04:26

    Sticking of the gas pedal in sub-zero temperatures - it happens but rarely 1 time during the winter at -35. Trouble engine on gasoline did not notice the gas when the engine is cold. Rapid wear of the camshaft seal did not change the mileage of 107 thousand. The pump can fail already at 30-40, I did not change anything. During operation, wipers wear out quickly - it depends on the climate and frequency of use. Poor paint quality. Chips and scratches can appear quite quickly - this is not a disadvantage, it also depends on where the car drives. The front door limiters are not tightened and the mileage of 107 thousand is unscrewed, everything is in place. Wheel bearings rarely live longer than 30 thousand km changed to 107 along with the brake drums on the handbrake traveled)))). At a run of 10-15 thousand shock absorbers fail. also depends on the quality of our roads if the pit is in the pit and drives everything like a pit, maybe the front struts changed twice for 60 and 107 rear 1 time for 100 thousand Crunch when reverse gear is engaged - due to a design feature (there is no reverse gear synchronizer) there is such a thing, but for me does not interfere. The upper mounts of the headlights - crack even from bad roads. Front foglights fall out from vibration. Where does such data come from? Squeaking and further failure of the rear brake force distributor. Starts with a run of 10 thousand km and requires lubrication every 10 thousand. Uneven wear of the front brake pads. It is also not clear where such data comes from.?

This smoke with a light foreign aroma is “sweet and pleasant” for many: the demand for foreign cars produced in Russia is stable. Renault Logan is one of them. Despite the general drop in sales, these cars are less likely than others to stagnate both at dealers and in the secondary market. If everything is more or less clear with the purchase of a new car, then the choice of a used one is rich in nuances. Let's talk about them.

At the capital's Avtoframos, the model began to be assembled in 2005. At first, there seemed to be no problems with its quality. But a year later, rust appeared on the machines from some batches. More often in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe rear wheel arches, along the edge of the windshield and on the roof, under the door seals. While the plant found out the reasons and "took measures", a couple of months passed. Meanwhile, the people were indignant, filled up with complaints from the manufacturer. He obliged dealers to partially repaint defective parts of cars produced before the end of 2006, and apply a protective layer of wax in the cavity of the wheel arches, and also changed the technology for applying mastics on the factory conveyor. Since then, the defect has not appeared.

Selling a car with a repainted body is, of course, more difficult. After all, you will have to prove that under the guise of that campaign you did not hide the emergency past. In fact, it is not difficult to convince the buyer, you just need to visit the nearest dealer with him and measure the thickness of the paintwork with a special device. The buyer should know that the thickness of the factory coating should be in the range of 110-130 microns, and repainted under warranty - 150-180 microns. If the ulcer was deep, then the device has the right to show even 200 microns. But anything more is a sure sign of putty under the paint, that is, straightening of the body. And this is an occasion to start a bargain.

On parts of cars manufactured before 2007, the front engine seals were leaking. I remember that then the owners claimed on the Internet that the oil level was too high, and recommended keeping it in the middle between the marks on the dipstick. Allegedly, these motors "do not like" when there is a lot of oil. But soon the leak reappeared, because the root cause remained - the roughly machined neck of the oil pump gear ate the working edge of the stuffing box. The correct solution is to replace the gear and oil seal. It is not worth delaying the repair, as oil splashes fall on the timing belt and soon lead to its destruction.

Take the manufacturer's recommendation to change the timing drive every 60 thousand km seriously, otherwise you will certainly get what the people aptly called "Stalingrad" - the consequences of the valves meeting with the pistons when the belt breaks. On 8-valve engines, the drive is simple, as on domestic "eights". We change the tension roller, we carefully check the pump. Usually it is enough for a second term, and occasionally for a third. Since 2008, a modified pump has gone, which, as a rule, serves 180 thousand km. With Megan's sixteen-valve valves, which some Logans have been equipped with since the end of 2009, it is more difficult. Here, in the connection of the pulley with the crankshaft, there is neither a key nor a locking pin. Therefore, it will not work to replace the drive without special tools.

Around the middle of 2007, the plant abolished the remote fuel filter. Difficult decision! It is painfully expensive to change the fuel pump assembly every 90 thousand km, as prescribed by the regulations. However, many owners ignore this requirement and drive to the last, until the engine starts to twitch under increased load, as if complaining about low rail pressure. As a rule, this happens after 150 thousand km, but there are lucky ones who have traveled more than 200 thousand km with their own pump.

ENGINE LIFE: GAS TO FAILURE

In general, engines are not picky about the quality of gasoline. Only a few cases of valve sticking have been recorded due to the increased content of resins in the fuel that form carbon deposits and on the valve stems. Nevertheless, it is desirable to alternate city trips, when the engine is idling more, with country trips: driving at full throttle helps to remove carbon deposits. Then it will be necessary to flush the nozzles less often (usually this is done without dismantling the nozzles, washing off carbon deposits from the valves, and at the same time from the piston rings and walls of the combustion chambers).

It happens that when you release the gas to "neutral" (in a mechanical box), the motor holds a couple of thousand revolutions for a long time, and sometimes it screams to the limiter. You have to pry the gas pedal with your toe, which is simply dangerous in motion. Quite often, the tattered gas cable rubbing against the shell is blamed for everything - this is only partly true. Sometimes replacing the cable really helps, but more often you have to flush the throttle assembly, which is wedged due to dirt. Sometimes an expensive mechanism (the price is about 8 thousand rubles) even has to be changed. And if under the hood there is a new sixteen-valve K4M with an electronic gas pedal, the throttle assembly must be calibrated using a dealer scanner.

Only steering tips (arrow) do not shine with longevity. Previously, they were accompanied by wheel bearings, but recently there have been noticeably fewer problems with them. Brake pads are enough for 30-35 thousand, disks - for 60-90 thousand km.

Only steering tips (arrow) do not shine with longevity. Previously, they were accompanied by wheel bearings, but recently there have been noticeably fewer problems with them. Brake pads are enough for 30-35 thousand, disks - for 60-90 thousand km.

The transition to Euro IV (2008-2009) will be remembered by many owners who have experienced cold start problems for a long time. The fact is that the program of the engine control unit was not really adapted to our realities (not only to fuel, but also to cold weather) and gave too short an impulse to the injectors. The poor mixture in the cold, of course, did not want to burn. The plant worked quickly (thanks for that), and after a couple of weeks, dealers got a new firmware. But it did not help some - according to official data, due to failures in the upper oxygen sensor, which was also changed under warranty (problems with it happened before). However, 15% of users were dissatisfied: neither one nor the other helped. Unofficials came to the rescue, developing their own version of the program. But even with it, not everything is going smoothly: fuel consumption and toxicity are growing.

The rear brake pads often have to be changed due not to wear (this happens at 100-120 thousand km), but to wetting due to leaky cuffs of the brake cylinders. It is advisable to change the cylinders along with the pads.

The rear brake pads often have to be changed due not to wear (this happens at 100-120 thousand km), but to wetting due to leaky cuffs of the brake cylinders. It is advisable to change the cylinders along with the pads.

We change the candles every 15 thousand km, but before unscrewing the old ones, we remove all the dirt from the wells (we are talking about eight-valve), otherwise it will certainly get into the cylinders.

RESOURCE OF THE SUSPENSION: THERE-HERE

Keep an eye on the left boot of the inner CV joint! It is made according to the “Zaporozhye” type (an axle oil seal is installed in it), and if the cover is leaky, then oil will leak out of the box. Then costly repairs can not be avoided. But in general, the MCP is very reliable and lasts a long time. Including the gearshift drive, which rarely gets loose, despite the fact that the lever constantly walks back and forth. The clutch wears out by 90-120 thousand km, but with careful handling it survives up to 180 thousand km.

We pay the main attention in the front suspension to the steering tips, which are able to knock after 60–70 thousand km (this is the weakest link). Silent blocks and ball bearings last a little longer (dealers recommend changing them complete with levers). By 150 thousand km, play may appear in the steering rods - in the inner tips that are under the corrugations of the rack. The steering rack itself serves for quite a long time, and even for taxis, whose mileage is approaching half a million kilometers. A similar picture is with the front hub bearings: in the first batches of cars, they did not last more than 40–50 thousand km. Not least because in versions without ABS, instead of a sensor, there was a hole in the steering knuckle through which dirt flew straight onto the bearing seals. Only later did these holes begin to be covered with foam plugs. At the same time, the sealing of the bearings was changed, now they serve 120–150 thousand km each. This is the same lower limit of the resource of shock absorbers, which for careful riders go much longer.

The beautiful Renault Logan sedan was originally created for developing countries. That is, for those people who do not need an expensive car, but at the same time they require a technologically advanced car with a modern appearance. In principle, Renault completed the task. Logan is not a very expensive car, but it meets all the requirements of a modern car. However, when creating the car there were many shortcomings. Now, Renault Logan of the 1st generation, although it fulfills all the requirements in its price segment, however, has a number of unpleasant drawbacks.

Weaknesses Renault Logan 2004-2015 release

  • Gas pedal;
  • Crunch in the gearbox;
  • wheel bearings;
  • Brake force distributor;
  • Wipers and paintwork;
  • Headlight mounts.

When choosing any car, you should immediately pay attention to the engine. Engine capacity is in the range of 1.4-1.6 liters. Power from 75 to 113 horsepower. For such a price, the characteristics are at a high level, but there are obvious drawbacks.

Due to low temperatures, sticking of the gas pedal occurs. Tip: This can be avoided by lubricating the pedal cable with frost-resistant machine oil in winter. If the owner constantly fills in low-quality fuel, after 10,000 kilometers, malfunctions will begin. For cars with mileage from 30-40,000 km. There is a high chance that the pump will fail.

Transmission

When you turn on the reverse gear, a crunch is heard, initially it will be difficult to identify exactly where it crunches. This is due to the lack of a reverse gear synchronizer.

It is rather weak, shock absorbers can fail with a run of 10-15,000 km. Wheel bearings often do not live even up to 30 thousand km. run.

Brake system

The front brake pads in each car begin to wear out over time, but in Renault Logan this happens unevenly. After 10,000 km, the rear brake force distributor creaks. In the future, they may completely refuse. To keep them in shape, they need to be constantly lubricated every 10 thousand km.

Windshield wipers will need to be changed frequently. They wear out quickly, a strong creak makes it clear about the problem with them. The paint quality is not top notch. It will take a little time, you will immediately notice small scratches on the body.

From a bad road, the upper mounts of the headlights begin to crack. This machine is suitable for the "ideal" city, so you should be careful with the operation. Vibration can cause front fog lights to fall out.

Feedback from car owners only confirms the weaknesses of Renault Logan 2004-2015 described above. Consider these sores when buying.

The main disadvantages of Renault Logan 1st generation

  • At first, the owner will be uncomfortable with the handles in the form of "notches".
  • Trunk. There is a small ledge in the trunk, so when loading any cargo, it will scratch. An additional minus in the trunk is hinges, plugs and wires. If you accidentally hook them, they will come off.
  • Glove box. Manufacturers spared a place for him. It is sorely lacking for use. The torpedo has a rounded shape, it is impossible to put things on it.
  • Oil filter. If you take it off, there is a high probability of burning your hand. You can avoid this by removing the collector, but you will have to make an effort and spend a lot of time.
  • Creak. Almost everything in the cabin creaks. No matter how the driver or passengers turn, whatever opens, it all creaks.
  • Hydraulic booster tank. Pretty loosely attached. In addition, it also holds a radiator. He constantly gets out, which brings discomfort to the owner of the car.
  • Sealed the doors. If snow is not removed from the door seals in winter, it begins to gradually penetrate into the passenger compartment. This problem is not so terrible, but it can deliver a lot of discomfort to the driver.
  • Small mirrors in the car. A small minus, because there is a special equipment with fairly large mirrors.
  • Cabin filter. Its replacement brings many difficulties. They change rarely, quickly, but in this car it can take a whole day. If you do not want to waste time, you can simply use the services of specialists in any car service.
  • There is no light bulb in the trunk. The disadvantage is insignificant, but brings discomfort in some situations.
  • The fuses can only be reached by opening the driver's door. Any car rusts and deforms over time, so when you open this door in rainy weather, water can get on the fuse. This will lead to serious consequences.
  • Accelerates slowly. The reason is poor aerodynamics.
  • The manufacturer did not think over the location of the wipers. The glass gets wet, the driver turns on the wipers, and only a part of the “tears” is wiped off. This is very annoying and does not allow you to concentrate on the road.

For most motorists, these shortcomings in the modern world are considered unacceptable. Do not forget that the price of Renault Logan is low, and sore spots are not so fatal. When reviewing any car, it is worth considering all the pros and cons, and the first Logans have much more of them.

Pros and cons of Renault Logan

  • The doors are very high and wide. It is very comfortable.
  • Despite the fact that the car is not very expensive, the seats are modern and very comfortable. The landing is comfortable, the quality of the lining is excellent, and sitting on such seats is simply very pleasant.
  • The car is well prepared for the cold. The stove in the car perfectly heats the interior, and uses a minimum of resources. The stove in the car is modern and designed in such a way that it heats the temperature inside the cabin evenly.
  • Renault Logan has a very high seating position. Due to the high ground clearance, this car will pass in places where some crossovers are simply powerless.
  • The suspension is ideal for domestic roads and driving conditions, because it is simply "Indestructible" (But do not take it literally). Even high mileage is not an indication that the suspension has overtaken wear.
  • Engine tested by time. They are very reliable and rarely require repairs. In addition, the engine in Renault Logan is omnivorous and can drive A-92, A-95 or A-98. In addition, the consumption in mixed mode is about 8 liters per 100 kilometers.
  • The gas tank box is closed with a key. Many cars of the same class are limited to conventional traffic jams. This is a very good advantage if the owner always leaves the car on the street. He can be calm that hooligans do not steal fuel from him.
  • The car is very cheap. This applies not only to the price of a new car, but also to maintenance. The owner of the car does not need a lot of money even for a major overhaul. In addition, Renault Logan is very easy to maintain, so many parts can be replaced or replaced by oneself. In addition, it is not only inexpensive, but also reliable.
  • The car engine is ideal for the harsh Russian winter. Even after several years of operation, it will start without problems at a temperature of minus 35 degrees.
  • If you have turned off the car and are about to get out of it, but did not turn off the headlights, the car will inform you about this using a sound signal that the “Brain” of the car gives. The system is able to determine whether you have turned off the headlights or not and give a signal if this has not been done.
  • Renault engineers perfectly protected the engine crankcase and other components. Considering the state of domestic roads, this enhanced protection eliminates the risk of engine damage.

Conclusion.

The car has many advantages. However, Renault Logan's vulnerabilities are quite significant. Not fully thought out design of the body and interior, shortcomings with the trunk, not well-developed aerodynamics and much more. It all spoils the overall picture. Be that as it may, the advantages in the car are much more significant. Thanks to this, the new Renault Logan is very popular in the domestic market and is actively bought up in car dealerships. Many owners say that the car is peculiar and "Unaccustomed", but this is tolerable. Given the price segment, such minor flaws can simply be written off. In addition, many of the disadvantages in the car can be easily corrected on their own.

P.S.: We will be grateful if you describe in the comments below the main shortcomings and frequent breakdowns of your car of this brand, identified during operation.

Weaknesses and main disadvantages of Renault Logan with mileage was last modified: October 18th, 2018 by Administrator