To date, DSG has become a very common automatic transmission model for VAG vehicles and we are ready to provide you with a large assortment of refurbished and used DSG boxes, mechatronics, clutches and parts for them (used and new clutches are in great demand).
- We have been working since 1998, the territory is 2100 sq. m.
- We carry out with a GUARANTEE the repair and sale of DSG automatic transmissions, mechatronics, clutches, as well as further consultations, programming and assistance in adapting, commissioning and adjusting the clutch.
- DSG Models:
02E- 6 speed wet clutch
0AM- 7 speed with two clutches
0B5- 7 speed all wheel drive with wet clutch
Audi: A3, A4, Q5, Allroad, TT
Volkswagen:
Skoda Fabia, Octavia, Super B
Audi: A3, A4, Q5, Allroad, TT
Volkswagen: Golf, Passat, Jetta, Touran, Transporter - T5
Skoda Fabia, Octavia, Super B
Estimated cost of DSG 6 and DSG 7 boxes:
- DSG 6 - 02E: mechatronics repair from 25.000 - 45.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 6 - 02E: repair mechatronic - 45.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 6 - 02E: repair automatic transmission 90.000 - 95.000 rubles.
DSG 6 - 02E: Used automatic transmission 70.000 - 80.000 rubles. 3 months warranty
DSG 6 - 02E: Clutch repair kit 15.000 rub. 6 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0AM: repair automatic transmission 70.000 - 80.000 rubles. 12 months warranty or 20.000 km
DSG 7 - 0AM: Used automatic transmission 50.000 - 60.000 rubles. 3 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0AM: Clutch with second-hand replacement (turnkey) 23.000 rub. 6 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0AM: Clutch with N / O replacement (turnkey) 31.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0AM: Clutch with OEM replacement (turnkey) 43.000 rub. 18 months warranty
- DSG 7 - 0B5: mechatronics repair from 30.000 - 50.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0B5: repair mechatronics - 50.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0B5: ECU (control unit) mechatronics - 30.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0B5: overhaul automatic transmission 120.000. 12 months warranty or 20.000 km
DSG 7 - 0B5: Used automatic transmission 85.000 rubles. 3 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0B5: Clutch repair kit 18.000 rub. 6 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0B5: Clutch assembly kit 35.000 rub. 12 months warranty
- DSG 7 - 0BT / 0BH: mechatronics repair from 25.000 - 50.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0BT / 0BH: repair mechatronic - 50.000 rubles. 12 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0BT / 0BH: repair automatic transmission 110.000 - 120.000 rubles. 12 months warranty or 20.000 km
DSG 7 - 0BT / 0BH: Used automatic transmission 85.000 - 95.000 rubles. 3 months warranty
DSG 7 - 0BT/0BH: Clutch assembly kit 25.000 rub. 12 months warranty
DSG Dual Clutch Automatic Transmission - Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG)
The Volkswagen concern was the first in this field. The design of such transmissions practically does not differ from each other for each of the manufacturers. Robotic gearbox DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) is currently the most advanced automated transmission.
- 6 - 7 speed automatic DSG
During acceleration, the next gear is switched on electronically in advance, and remains on all the time. If it is necessary to change gear, the automation only opens the first clutch and closes the second - synchronously and extremely quickly. At the same time, the next gear is immediately engaged on the shaft with the first clutch, which will wait for the next transition to a step up. When braking, everything happens in reverse order.
- What is a 6 speed DSG (02E) - DSG 6!
When 1st gear is engaged, the clutch blocks the 1st gear on the driven shaft. Then the clutch closes, and the torque is transmitted through the internal input shaft to the gearbox. Together with the inclusion of 1st gear, the mechatronics (DSG control unit) blocks the gears of 2nd gear. Thus, two gears are engaged at once, although the 2nd gear is not engaged, because the clutch of the outer shaft is open. If it is necessary to shift to second gear, the DSG mechatronic opens the discs of the first clutch and closes the second one. Then the torque is already going through the external input shaft and second gear gears. In the meantime, the 3rd stage is blocked on the inner shaft, and so on. The same thing, but in reverse order, occurs when the car slows down.
Turning the clutch discs on and off (and the clutch discs DSG 6 work in oil - this is the so-called "wet clutch") and gear shifting in the DSG is controlled by a mechatronics that combines a hydraulic system, a set of mechanical rods and servo drives and an electronic unit that, based on sensors, determines the algorithm of the box.
- What is a 7 speed gearbox DSG DQ200 (DSG-7), DL500/1 (0B5) - DSG 7!
DSG 7 - DQ200 seven-speed robotic gearbox with 0AM dual dry clutch, differs from the 6-speed DSG in the presence of a 7th gear and a hydraulically controlled double dry clutch. In addition to other structural advantages, this design allows, first of all, to significantly reduce the amount of required transmission. In the DSG-7, it is only used for lubrication, not clutch cooling. The result: higher efficiency and thus lower fuel consumption.
- The main directions of our technical center:
Repair of automatic transmissions of all brands, including CVT variators, multitronics with the possibility of grinding cones and restoring the oil pump, automatic transmissions DSG: 02E, 0AM, 0B5, MPS6 (6DCT450) with clutch adjustment, even used ones
Repair of valve bodies, control plates, automatic transmission mechatronics with the possibility of programming for your vehicle
Repair of DSG mechatronics with testing at the stand and programming the firmware version for your vehicle
Repair of electronic boards and automatic transmission ECU
Repair of torque converters, restoration of used parts (oil pumps, planetaries, housings, cones, drums, etc.), on high-precision equipment
Supply of original and non-original, remanufactured and used spare parts
Contract, rebuild and used automatic transmissions
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Volkswagen's preselective two-clutch gearbox made a splash in the automotive market at the time. The Germans managed to create such a "robot" that will surpass a professional racer in terms of speed of switching steps, and in terms of economy it will give odds to any classical mechanics. Direkt Schalt Getrieb - this is how the sacred abbreviation DSG stands for, that is, "direct switching box".
The first was the 6-speed version of the DSG with dual clutch discs operating in an oil bath, and a little later, a 7-speed version of the DSG with a pair of "dry" clutches was developed. Similar to those used in conventional mechanics. That's just the maximum torque of the engine, which the "dry seven" with the DQ200 index is able to digest, has decreased to 250 Nm (instead of 380), so the assembly is installed on less powerful versions of VW Group cars with turbo engines of 1.2 liters, 1.4 liters , and 1.8 liters.
As you know, such a "quick-firing" robot is installed not only on the prestigious Volkswagen and Audi models, but quite practical Skoda cars also get a trailer. Among the indisputable advantages of the DSG 7 are the speed and optimal gearshift logic, the excellent dynamics of cars with preselective gearboxes and fuel economy even compared to conventional mechanics. Only tolerable jerks when changing gears, caused by too sharp closing of dry clutch discs, can be written down as disadvantages. However, we are talking mainly about the lower 2-3 gears, and then everything happens smoothly.
Dream, not a box? - No matter how! The low reliability of the long-suffering DSG 7 is still legendary in the world to this day. The "dry" robotic box became a real headache for the VW concern - the list of problems with it was as thick as the volume of War and Peace. The two most problematic nodes of the 7-speed DSG: this is the so-called "mechatronics" unit and friction clutches, which should have been enough for the entire period of operation. Less often, premature wear of the shaft bearings and the clutch release fork was noted. The manufacturer tried to cure the problems by flashing the control unit, improving the "mechatronics" itself and the double clutch, and indeed the entire mechanical part as a whole.
It is believed that the DSG 7 boxes of the 2014 model are the most trouble-free units, so VW even canceled the special guarantee for the "robot", which was valid in Russia for cars manufactured on December 31, 2013 - for such instances, the "extension" is 5 years or 150 thousand .km run. And fresh copies are content with a standard 2-year warranty with no mileage limit.
Minimum price
Maximum price
Despite the deep modernization of the DSG 7, complaints are still sometimes received against the box. And if everything is clear with "warranty" cars - the officials, in theory, will change the faulty unit without any problems, then what should the owner prepare for after 2 years of operation? In the end, no one canceled the mechanical damage to the box when you can no longer hide behind the guarantee. We decided to find out how much it would actually cost to replace a DSG 7 using the example of a relatively affordable 2015 Skoda Octavia. with a 1.8 TSI engine and, of course, the ill-fated "robot".
By the way, this time we are reviewing the car, which is called “hands off”, because the representative office of the Skoda brand did not express much desire to provide us with the Octavia for traditional Friday research.
But the official dealer "Avtopraga North-West" made the calculation without problems and delays. It turned out that the new 7-speed DQ200 for our Skoda will cost an incredible 345,890 rubles. The most unexpected thing is that the dealer, for unclear reasons, offered us a fantastically cheap option: through other spare parts channels, we were given numbers in the range from 485 to 530 thousand! Yes, this is half the cost of a brand new base Octavia! But we start from official figures, to which we still need to add the cost of replacing the box, its firmware and adaptation - and this is at least another 35 thousand. Total - 380,890 rubles. Isn't it too much for a practical Skoda Octavia?
Spare parts
Service works
Let's look at the problem from the other side: due to the massive demand for DSG 7 repair, there is also a corresponding offer from unofficial workshops - many specialists are ready to repair your DQ200. Prices start from 30 thousand rubles for the repair of the "mechatronics" unit and 50 thousand for the replacement of clutches, up to the ceiling 130-150 thousand rubles for the repair of the turnkey box, including the replacement of the unit, clutches and the bulkhead of the entire mechanical part of the "robot".
And in order to guarantee a longer service life of the preselective box, you can and should heed the advice of technical specialists and experienced users of the DSG 7. Firstly, do not get carried away with aggressive driving - the “robot” does not like this. Fans of "fun starts" should completely forget about acceleration from a standstill in two pedals - i.e. pressing the brake and at the same time sinking the accelerator. Secondly, it is recommended to push the “brake” harder at short stops before traffic lights so that the clutches are fully opened. Finally, it is forbidden to abuse slippage, for example, on a slippery road or at a time when the car is stuck.
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It is unlikely, of course, that the owner of Octavia will disassemble the turbocharged TSI engine in the garage. And rightly so: work is not for everyone. Moreover, you should not break the “dead” preselective gearbox yourself - firstly, it can break itself, and secondly, trained people should still do it. The only question is: should these people work in a dealership or in a rented box? We will not answer it unequivocally, but we will give some figures.
A little bit of history
Octavia is a classic example of how it's good to go back to basics sometimes. The fact is that the first Octavias appeared back in 1959. True, in 1971 their production stopped, and the tactful pause dragged on until 1996. But already that Skoda, truly socialist and truly budgetary, turned out to be a storehouse of technical innovations. One independent suspension was worth it! In addition, the car was warmly welcomed not only at home, but also in other countries. And the leading role in this was played by the price of the car. Let it be small, but reliable and affordable - this was the first Skoda.
In 1996, the Czechs showed a new Skoda. Since at that time they were already not only Czechs, but also Germans (the Volkswagen concern already owned 70% of the enterprise at that time), the platform of the new Skoda was borrowed from Western European partners. The first generation Audi A3, Volkswagen Golf 4, Volkswagen Bora, Seat Leon and several other cars were built on the same A4 platform (PQ34). But, as in the case of Skoda 1959-1971, the model was updated quite actively. In 2000, it was restyled, and in 2004 the second generation Octavia came out.
This time it was based on the PQ46 platform, which repeated the PQ34, but was intended for larger cars. We know this platform mainly from the glorious Trade Winds, no less glorious Tiguans and Golf Plus. In addition, Audi Q3, Skoda Yeti, Superb and some other good cars are built on modifications of this platform. Just Octavia of this generation, 2009 release, will become our today's "whipping boy". But in fairness, we note that in 2013 the third generation of Octavia was released, and this time on an even more “advanced”, now modular MQB platform (used, for example, in the seventh generation Golf and Passat B8). But today we are interested in the second generation Octavia with a turbocharged 1.4 TSI engine (122 hp), a seven-speed DSG preselective box, the mileage of which is 136 thousand kilometers.
Engine
Only the lazy did not talk about 1.4 TSI engines. And they say, in general, Indeed, they have some features associated with the low reliability of the parts of the cylinder-piston group (primarily rings), but on our car the entire mileage of the engine was doing well. Of course, when driving too actively, it starts to “eat” a little more oil, which, in principle, is the norm for a turbocharged engine. Therefore, we begin the maintenance of the motor with an oil change.
You can’t save on the oil and filter itself: the motor is quite picky about their quality. The original filter will cost quite a lot: from 700 rubles to 1,000. If you really want, you can put an analogue - its price can start from 400 rubles. But if we save 500-700 rubles on an independent oil change, then it’s not worth spare money for a good filter. If your hands are itching to close something, then you can not buy an oil pan plug, although it should be changed during each oil change. This thing costs about a hundred rubles. It happens that it is screwed in for the third and fourth time, and it does not leak. But it happens that it flows right away, so if you still decide not to change it, then after changing the oil you need to check this issue. The filter is on top and access to it is open.
The timing drive is carried out by a chain. Some authorized dealers like to say that the chain is designed to last the life of the engine. They are partly right: when it finally stretches, the motor will cease to serve. And yet it is better to change it, but here it was not possible to get a clear and unambiguous recommendation on the frequency of replacement. The most fearful say 60 thousand kilometers, the most daring (or desperate) are not going to change at all. And yet, experts agreed on a figure of 100-120 thousand. It’s hard to do it yourself, so it’s better to go to a good service. Prices differ very cool, but on average, only work will cost 12,000 rubles. The motor will not bring any special trouble until its unpredictable death. Although, if you feel sorry for him and understand that 1.4 liters, even a turbocharged one, is far from a five-liter V8, and you should not expect much from him. For such a volume, 122 “horses” issued by him are not so few, you can’t call a car even with him a “vegetable”. If Schumacher wakes up somewhere deep inside the owner of an Octavia with such an engine, then the engine can be handed over to the masters of chip tuning. After flashing the “brains”, he is able to produce 152 hp. How this will affect his longevity is an open question. The second operation that you can perform yourself is to replace the air filter. The cover is removed after unscrewing the four bolts, any car owner with two hands and a screwdriver can do this job - there are fewer secrets than in Dontsova's detectives.
Transmission
The “robot” of this Octavia turned out to be quite tenacious and passed as much as 120 thousand kilometers before the first repair. For a seven-speed DSG, this is, sadly, a good result. In 2010, the concern recognized and extended the warranty to 150 thousand kilometers. But this did not save the owner of our Skoda. The car was released a year earlier, and the dealer refused to repair the gearbox under warranty. Therefore, the whole terrible story told below was financed from the pocket of the owner of the car.
It all started in the morning. The car started up perfectly, after a short warm-up, the selector lever was moved to position D. Thus began a black streak in the life of a car owner with DSG. The car did not move, signaling a malfunction of the box. First of all, they began to find out from the dealer what could have happened, and most importantly, how much it could cost to restore the unit's performance. Based on the fact that the problem lay in the impossibility of switching speeds, the officials sentenced mechatronics. This is the same part of the gearbox that engages and disengages the clutches (the “seven-step” has two of them, and they are dry) and directly shifting gears. Mechatronics is a hydraulic system, a set of mechanical rods and servo drives and an electronic unit, which, based on the readings of the sensors, determines the operation algorithm of the box. Dealers for mechatronics ask from 70 to 110 thousand rubles, and for its replacement - from 20 to 40 thousand, which is, of course, shameless, but quite official robbery. After searching, we managed to find a company that deals specifically with DSG, and their services - though not cheap either - still cost significantly less. Moreover, they have the opportunity not only to replace the mechatronics, but also to repair this mercilessly expensive device. Thus, the repair cost "only" 38,500 rubles. But the black bar turned out to be much wider than it might seem at first glance.
Very soon, jerks appeared, and such that it became impossible to drive in sports mode at all. In normal mode, the box also gave kicks under the soft spot, as if hinting at the inevitable. This "inevitable" was the replacement of the clutch. This time, the dealer did not even meddle. The clutch kit was purchased for 28 thousand, 16,000 had to be paid off for the work. The box itself dealt the third blow. Now the choice is either to replace the gearbox bearings (set - about 28,000, work - about 22,000), or to replace the entire box. The “battle” with the DSG goes on for about the last 15 thousand kilometers. All the work carried out at the prices of dealers would have cost about 300 thousand rubles. I don’t argue, Octavia is a good car, but 300 thousand for a “box” ... I think when choosing a used car it makes sense to look at the mechanics or automatic transmission.
Chassis and brakes
Maintenance and repair of the suspension and brakes for a run of 100 thousand cost 20,000 rubles. This included the replacement of brake pads and discs, stabilizer struts and suspension maintenance. It took no more than three hours, but the dealer does the same work in a working day, and it will cost him 65,000. Let's see if we can save at least a little more on this.
Let's start with the pads. To replace the front ones, you will need a minimum skill, a 7 mm hexagon (although there are “stars” there) and, of course, new pads. It’s hard to find fault with Octavia’s native brakes, so if you don’t have an irresistible craving for a particular manufacturer, then you can get by with original pads (2,200 rubles). If you managed to press the pistons on the calipers of the rear wheels, then you broke them, because they can only be twisted. Excessive diligence can lead to breakdowns, so you have to find something suitable in order to carefully screw the pistons into place, and then put the pads on. In the service it will cost about 700 rubles. If you're already saving for a DSG repair, then the money will come in handy. We add that you can save even more on brake discs. The originals will cost 4 thousand, and a good analogue can be found for 3,200.
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In general, the chassis is not bad, and the only thing that may require an unscheduled replacement is the stabilizer struts. If you make a little effort, then you can change them yourself, however, without a lift it will be difficult. If successful, it will be possible to put 1,700 rubles in your pocket, but the stand itself will cost 3,000.
Body and interior
Well, time to get behind the wheel. Inside, the second Octavia is obscenely good: a comfortable driver's seat, very good sound insulation. The car obediently follows the turns of the steering wheel, and standing still, you can endlessly admire the laconic, but very solid panel of the car in German. In general, much can be forgiven for Octavia’s comfort when traveling, but not a “robot”. This madman lives some kind of life of his own, thinks for a long time, after making a decision he starts to push. To be honest, his work spoils the whole impression of the car. However, we have not yet examined the body.1 / 7
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DSG7 0AM/0CW diagnostics: free of charge!
DSG7 0AM / 0CW mechatronics repair: from 20,000 rubles. Warranty 6 months
DSG7 0AM/0CW repair mechatronic: . Warranty 6 months
DSG7 0AM/0CW overhaul automatic transmission: . Warranty 6 months
DSG7 0AM/0CW used automatic transmission: . Warranty 1 month
DSG7 0AM / 0CW clutch repair kit: 12,000 rubles. Warranty 6 months
DSG7 0AM/0CW clutch replacement (new original): 1 day. Warranty 6 months
DSG7 0AM / 0CW oil change - 2000 rubles.
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** Field diagnostics are available in Moscow and Moscow Region.
*** Representative offices and partners in the regions (service, spare parts, etc.)
What does DSG 7 repair consist of?
DSG 7 clutch replacement
Old clutch - reduced, there is no gap at all
Old clutch - even both bearings are overheated
The clutch itself is a fairly reliable mechanism, but over time they still wear out. In this case, the DSG 7 clutch is replaced with a Skoda Octavia. On a 6-speed gearbox, which, as you know, is a wet-type gearbox, this procedure is carried out much less frequently (about once 150-200 thousand km, subject to moderate operation, although cars with mileage of about 300 thousand km often arrived) than in a dry-type gearbox, where a clutch replacement with a DSG 7 may be needed already, starting from 25-30 thousand km.
You should also be aware that the clutch responsible for odd gears wears out faster, because. it is responsible for the operation of 1st and reverse gears (increased load). Constant driving in traffic jams also negatively affects the clutch life.
Initially, manufacturers of 6 and 7 speed DSGs provided for the possibility of replacing clutches in the gearbox and, accordingly, produce repair kits. After this procedure, clutch adaptation is required. For this work (replacement + adjustment + adaptation + installation) we provide a 1 year warranty.
Repair and replacement of mechatronics DSG 7
In the vast majority of cases, problems with a box with two clutches begin due to mechatronics (he actually controls the switching process). On DSG 6, on average, everything happens later than on DSG 7.
Problems with it may arise due to fur. solenoids wear (jerks appear). In this case, usually a complete replacement of mechatronics is not required, but only solenoids change.
The second problematic place is the mechatronics electronic control unit, usually problems with it arise due to overheating (when starting on a cold system, the system goes into emergency mode). If the unit cannot be restored, then a replacement is made with subsequent reprogramming for the desired machine. We reprogram mechatronics DSG7 DQ200 DQ500 DL501 0AM 0B5 0BT 0BH for a specific car.
Typical symptoms of malfunctions
Basically, a harbinger of problems is the appearance of jerks, jolts at the start of movement and when switching to lower gears (downshifting). In a worse case, the gearbox does not turn on and, accordingly, the car does not drive. In most cases, the box goes into emergency mode, which does not go away when the errors are reset (not always). It’s not worth letting it drift, as the rule always works - the sooner, the cheaper it is to repair the DSG 7 mechatronics Skoda Octavia DQ200 0AM 0CW.
What to do if mechatronics repair is not possible?
This happens quite often (usually after accidents). You need to replace it with a used, repair or new one, and then reprogram it for the desired car. We have a used warehouse, repair mechatronics for DSG 7 in stock. On the spot, we will reprogram for the desired car within 20 minutes. The cost of work is indicated in the table (see above).
Mechanical DSG 7
She also has problems.
Bearing wear produces running noise that increases with RPM and speed. It is solved by opening and subsequent replacement of a set of bearings.
The shift fork is destroyed - even gears and reverse gear disappear. Falls into emergency mode.
Destruction of the needle bearing on the input shaft, leakage of the input shaft seal. Those who change the clutch - it is strongly recommended to replace these 2 parts.
Typical work examples (DQ200 0AM)
Golf 7 1.6 BSE 2010 DQ200 0AM - reverse and even gears missing
Volkswagen Golf 7 1.6 BSE 2010 DQ200 0AM has been repaired.
The problem was the lack of a reverse and an even number of gears, and when the reverse gear was engaged, a crunch was heard. When removing the mechatronics, the culprit of the malfunction was discovered - a broken fork 6 and reverse gear.
Having disassembled the box, they replaced the broken plug, replaced all the seals and assembled it back. Along the way, with the help of diagnostics and visually assessed the state of the clutch - still ride and ride.
Additionally, they diagnosed the work of mechatronics - everything is also ok with him.
They installed it on a car, drove the adaptations, made an adaptation trip and let the car go on riding.
Skoda Octavia A5 2011 1.4T 122 HP DSG 7 0AM DQ200 mechatronics replacement.
Native repair was not subject.
Incoming diagnostics showed a malfunction of the hydraulic part of the mechatronics, as well as sufficient clutch wear. After agreeing with the client, it was decided to repair only the hydraulic part of the mechatronics, and postpone the replacement of the clutch until the summer - with normal diagnostics, it is possible to predict the critical wear of the clutch and say how much more it will travel. They replaced the hydraulic part, poured new oil into the box and made adaptation.
Used and repair mechatronics available. We will reprogram for your car.
List of major DSG 7 faults we solve
- Shocks and jerks when switching. No errors in electronic diagnostics
- Vibrations and shocks at the beginning of the movement. There are no errors in electronic diagnostics.
- Lost reverse gear. When R is turned on, the machine goes into emergency mode, PRNDS is on. According to electronic diagnostics, the error is usually: 19143 P2711 - Invalid data for the gear shift process.
- When you turn on the "D" / "R" mode, clicks are heard from the gearbox and then the car starts moving. According to electronic diagnostics, error: 19143 P2711 - Invalid data for the gear shift process.
- The gearbox goes into emergency mode, PRNDS lights up. When the ignition is turned on / off, the gearbox works fine for a while, then everything is the same. According to electronic diagnostics, errors are usually: 18222 P1814 - Pressure control valve 1 for automatic transmission-N215: open circuit / short circuit to ground 18223 P1815 - Pressure control valve 1 for automatic transmission-N215 short to positive N216: open circuit/short to ground 18228 P1820 - Pressure control valve 2-N216 Short to positive
- Periodically, the checkpoint falls into emergency mode, PRNDS lights up. When the ignition is turned on / off, the gearbox works normally for a while, then everything starts again. According to electronic diagnostics, the following errors: 18115 P1707 - Interference in the operation of the Mechatronic unit, 17252 P0868 - Pressure in the gearbox adaptation to the limit
- After installing a used mechatronics, the gears do not change as they should. Usually there is a tightening when switching.
- After installing used mechatronics, at the start of the movement, the gearbox falls into emergency mode. According to electronic diagnostics, error: 19143 P2711 - Invalid data of the gear shift process
This is not a complete list of problems and errors. If you have any questions, you can call either.
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At the mention of the robotic transmission DSG-7 with dry clutch, most immediately begin to talk about its unreliability. However, as practice shows, the overwhelming majority of the respondents have never encountered cars equipped with this gearbox at all. In order to understand the reliability and main problems of the DSG-7 DQ200, we decided to talk and get the opinions of real owners who operate VAG cars in 2017 with a dry clutch DSG-7.
On our own behalf, we can add that for more than 3 years we had at our personal disposal a Skoda Octavia A7 equipped with a robot and a 1.8 liter engine with a capacity of 180 horsepower. For 3 years, the car, or rather the Direct-Shift Gearbox robotic transmission, did not cause any problems. Moreover, the car was operated mercilessly, almost on a daily basis - “sneakers on the floor” with constant sharp accelerations from a traffic light. And only on a run of 72,000 once did we experience a slight vibration, and this happened after we stood for more than 3 hours in a traffic jam with constant gas-brake movement.
Summing up, we can safely say that it has become much more reliable than the very first version, which gave the owners a huge headache, especially on the Volkswagen Passat B7 of the first years of production. Of the main advantages, lightning-fast gear shifting, excellent fuel economy and, of course, dynamics can be noted. Using the example of the 3rd generation Octavia with only 180 horsepower, the Czech car was able to leave its competitors far behind with more powerful and bulky engines. Octavia A7 with a 1.8 liter engine is perhaps one of the fastest cars in its class and price segment, only more expensive cars in sports modifications are faster.
Reviews about DSG-7 Volkswagen car owners
In order to learn about all the pros and cons of the robot, we decided to talk with the owners of Volkswagen cars and find out their opinion about reliability.
- Volkswagen Passat
Alexander shared his opinion with us, who has owned a Volkswagen Passat sedan with a 1.8 liter engine for more than 4 years.
First of all, I'll start with the fact that I bought a new car and thought for a long time about taking it with a 1.4 or 1.8 liter engine, because. I often drive on the highway, but I decided to opt for a larger engine. I think that it will withstand the load at high speeds better than a low-volume one, which is more suitable for those who operate the car only in the city. As for the gearbox, I originally planned to take the mechanics, because. I heard a lot about the problems of the robot, moreover, one of my friends had a run of 48,000 km. However, having studied the forums with owner reviews, I came to the conclusion that over the past few years, engineers have managed to rid the DSG of all the shortcomings and the box has become much more reliable, as a result of which the choice fell on the version with a robot, which I never regretted. For all the time the car has not delivered any problems and makes me happy to this day.
Of the minuses, I can only note the unpleasant sound of metal when driving through speed bumps or other irregularities. It seems that instead of a well-oiled mechanism, bolts were poured into the box, which, when shaking, beat each other. A trip to the dealer did not give any results, besides, judging by the forums, this is a common problem that the official dealer cannot do anything about and answers only with excuses - they say this does not affect the operation of the transmission and the fact that the rattle is not a malfunction, but is only a feature of the DSG 7 with a dry clutch.
Passat B8
Good day everyone, my name is Konstantin and here is my review of the DSG box, which many are so afraid of. First I want to note that before that I had an Octavia A7 that suited me in everything, but I wanted a bigger car, at first I wanted to take a new Superb, but after visiting a Volkswagen dealer and driving a new Passat, I decided to opt for it. The funds were only enough for a version with a 1.4 liter engine, of course I wanted a more powerful version with a 180 horsepower engine, but paying about 1,900,000 is too expensive for me, and even 150 hp. quite enough for city driving.
As for the transmission, the choice was definitely in favor of the robot, because. I am not a fan of “pulling” the gearshift knob and pressing the pedals, this occupation is very exhausting for me, after work I want to get home as quickly as possible with comfort. Because as I wrote above, I had experience in operating a car with an identical transmission and I am familiar with reliability and shortcomings firsthand, everything suits me completely, but somehow I don’t want to change to a standard automatic machine. after the DSG, the work of the classic automatic transmission seems too thoughtful and fuel consumption played a role. With proper operation, the DSG should not cause any complaints, if you encounter this gearbox for the first time, then be sure to read the instructions for proper operation in the book, which will avoid breakdowns and failure of mechatronics.
Volkswagen Jetta
My name is Kirill Vasilyevich and here is my review of the DQ200 robot. I bought a car not new, but with a mileage of 50,000 km, initially I wanted to find one with an atmospheric engine and a classic torque converter, but they didn’t sell such cars in our city. An advertisement for the sale of a version with a turbo engine and a DQ200 robot caught my eye, I honestly admit that two things bribed me - the first is the price of the car and the second is its dynamics along with low fuel consumption.
At first, the car pleased everyone with handling and dynamics and imperceptible gear shifting, but after 6,000 km problems began - the box began to kick when shifting gears from second to third, and the kicks were quite strong and noticeable. Moreover, driving on a rough road hears a distinct clang of metal. The trip to the dealer ended with a verdict of mechatronics failure, since the car is still under warranty, the replacement cost under warranty. I am afraid that the breakdown may happen again, and the repair will have to be done out of my own pocket, so I plan to put the car up for sale in the near future.
Golf MK7
I’ll say right away that I made the purchase rather not with my head, but with my heart. very long dreamed of this German hatchback. Almost with the advent of the first photos of the seventh generation, I began to study all the information about it, including the DQ200 robot, which, judging by the numerous dissatisfied reviews of the owners, raised a lot of questions about reliability. By the way, the main problems occurred in the first years, then the company gradually corrected all design flaws. The main problem was overheating of the clutch and its failure due to frequent switching from 1 to second gear and back while driving through traffic jams. This problem was solved by reprogramming and increasing the first gear, more precisely, now the gear shifts much later, which reduces the number of gear changes to the second. I hope you understand what I wanted to say. I approached this issue with full responsibility and read a fairly large number of tips on how to extend the life of the DSG DQ200, including manuals for proper operation, which say that it is better to switch to neutral during a long stop (in a traffic jam or at a traffic light) ( N), and in heavy traffic, either use sport mode (S) or manual shift mode. Yes, of course, in this sense, the classic automatic is much more convenient and simpler, but I would not change the sensations that Direct Shift Gearbox gives for anything, I really like to feel constant acceleration and the absence of a gear shift sensation, like in a classic automatic transmission.
Now my golf has run 33,400 km and for all this time I have not had any problems (pah-pah-pah), yes, of course, the mileage is quite miserable, but now we can say that the DQ200 robot in 2017 has become much more reliable than the first his version. In the future, I plan to buy a car also on a robot, but I hope that it will be either a 6-speed wet clutch DQ250, or a wet clutch with seven gears, which is currently considered the most reliable among VAG robotic transmissions.
Volkswagen Polo Sedan GT
Before that, I already had a Polo sedan but with a conventional automatic, everyone liked the car, but lacked dynamics. Immediately after the appearance of information about the version with, I thought about buying it. The dynamics are really interesting considering that the engine size is only 1.4 liters, and the power is some 125 hp. I heard that there are specialists who raise engine power to 180 and 200 hp. though then the question arises about the reliability of the transmission and its ability to cope with increased power.
To date, the mileage is 13,600 km. and during all this time no problems were noticed. The operation of the gearbox, or rather the gear shift, is much more like it than on a classic automatic. So I'm 100% happy with my purchase. Time will tell how the DQ200 will behave in the future, I hope that up to 100,000 km, no problems will happen to it.
Reviews about DSG owners SEAT
Although this brand once again left our market, we could not help but include the reviews of the owners in our list.
SEAT Leon
The car chose between Skoda Octavia, Audi A3, SEAT Leon and Volkswagen Golf. I wanted a fast car with a bright appearance and a pleasant interior. Audi disappeared due to the high price, Golf due to the lack of a 1.8 liter engine, it is strange why the entire VAG line, except for this hatchback, is equipped with a 180 horsepower engine, but oh well. In the end, the choice was between Octavia and Lyon. The Czech liftback was much more practical due to the trunk, and the interior was much more spacious, but the appearance and design of the Seat bribed me, as a result of which my choice was on this particular brand.
Unfortunately, I didn’t know much about DSG on SEAT, and there isn’t too much information on the Internet, which is understandable. This brand is not particularly popular in Russia. But as I understand it, the gearbox and engine of the Leon are completely similar to those installed on the Octavia, so I thoroughly studied the forums of the owners of versions with a 180 horsepower engine and transmission. I was immediately pleased that there were very few negative reviews and there was no such volume of complaints as there was for the first generation Passat B7 with DSG.
Of course, I am afraid of a breakdown of the mechatronics and clutch, because. this is the most common problem, but so far the robot seems to be coping with its tasks with a bang. It is a pity, of course, that Leon is not equipped with the DQ250, which is more reliable and allows you to slightly increase power without fear of failure.
