RAVON NEXIA R3 1.5 AT ELEGANT
Power 106 hp
Acceleration 0-100 km / h 12.3 s
Price 579 000 rub.
Power 102 hp
Acceleration 0-100 km / h 10.7 s
Price 782 960 rub.
Datsun on-do 1.6 at Dream III
Power 87 hp
Acceleration 0-100 km / h 14.4 s
Price 614 000 rub.
RAVON NEXIA R3 1.5 AT ELEGANT
Renault Logan 1.6 AT Luxe Prizelege
Datsun on-do 1.6 at Dream III
A foreign car with the "automatic" for half a million rubles? A few years ago, in this segment, the choice was quite ... No, I will say otherwise: the choice was. And now it practically did not fit it: the car from the vehicle again began to turn into a luxury, and the non-affordable cars were pretty rising in price. And with "automata" - including.
Text Kirill Brevdo, photos of Vasily Medantkin
And yet we managed to collect three inexpensive sedans with automatic boxes under the editorial windows. True, to meet in Halmillion did not work: even in basic equipment such cars are more expensive. But if you add a hundred thousand, you can already find several options. China immediately exclude.
So, here are our foreign cars: Datsun, Renault and Ravon. The first two brands are on the hearing, but "Ravon" ... What is this firm?
This is a new brand comes - imagine! - From Uzbekistan. Previously, the GM enterprise, located in Asak, was called Uzdaewoo and produced once popular with us "Matza" and "Nexia". Actually, the blue sedan is nexia, only new: if before this name was produced by the years mutating Opel Kadett, now it has passed the inheritance of the Chevrolet Aveo of the previous generation.
However, two other heroes are also not quite the for whom they give out. Renault Logan began his career in Romania as Dacia Logan, and Datsun on-Do is at all the ledged Lada Granta. But formally, a foreign car. And buyers it is quite suitable. How not to remember Alexander our Sergeevich Pushkin: "Ah, to deceive me is not difficult! I myself deceive glad! .. "
For us, the main thing was that all three cars correspond to each other. These sedans are equipped with similar in the volume of engines to the ACP, and any of them can be bought, with the amount of up to 600,000 rubles. True, our copies turned out to be more expensive than the rich configuration. However, the essence of the case does not change.
With a distilled, hypertrophied trunk "ONDOSHKA" looks slightly ridiculous, but after a few days of the satellite life of the sedan, they get used to it and cease to pay attention to this constitutional anarchy. And when you know how much bolery can be stuffed in the Danchesy of the crust, then it is impassing with respect for this typewriter. The cabin is not so impressive as a trunk: against the background of the air "Renault" and a solid "Raving" "DanSon" seems more compact - at least, if we estimate from the position of the inhabitants of the front seats.
And according to the quality of finishing on-do - clearly not Japan. And not even France with Uzbekistan. Clear-like, but too much poorly. Although, in essence, not bad: this is the very case when poverty is not a vice. In the end, the Datsun datased to the database turns out to be cheaper than other machines. And this is not bad for conceptually budget equipment.
Meanwhile, the promotion on-do seems only until then, until you start to study it. There are heated mirrors, chairs and even windshield, and unlike Logan, where the latter is included only for the company with blowing, here it can be used separately. Instead of an ordinary air conditioner, a certain hint of climate control with the AUTO function for the fan. The audio system seems to be a simple, but it also has a USB input, and a slot for SD cards, and Bluetooth. And it sounds quite decent.
Hydromechanical "Automatic"
japanese company Jatco has only four steps, but it works excellently
On the sofa of the space a little -
in this sense, DanSon is similar to "Rena" and significantly inferior to Renault
By the volume of the trunk "DanSon"
out of competition. But all three cars do not have enough accessories for fixing the cargo
The steering wheel of "DanSona", as well as in competitors, is regulated only on the angle of inclination, and for giving a column of mobility, it is necessary to wake a huge retainer. Baranca is quite comfortable, although not burdened by additional control bodies like the audio system buttons. I did not like how the tilt of the seat back is regulated: you have to rotate the lambs for a long time at the base of the pillow. And in height, the chair can not be adjusted at all, although I would like to sit down. It was still surprised by the absence of a handle on the driver's door - it replaces her deepening in the armrest. The door itself, by the way, opens on a very big corner, and that's good.
And even good in the "ONDOSH" visibility. A large area of \u200b\u200bglazing is associated with thin body racks and large models of a beautiful view of the surrounding reality. In addition, sensors simplifying the parking process are embedded in the rear bumper: when the rear transmission is turned on, the music subsides, allowing you to hear their squeak.
On the sofa of the space a little - in this sense, "DanSon" is similar to "Rena" and is significantly inferior to Renault. Personne in the doorway, and on the upholstery of the front armchairs.
ON-DO can ride. The eight-flaped motor modest on the power paper turned out to be surprisingly good. C Places Sedan jumps like a ostervea, zealo reacting to the accelerator pedal, as a result of which Datsun seems very fast, even almost nervous. With increasing speed, the car calms down, but the city does not leave the feeling that the car does not have the forces of the cheerful dynamics of overclocking. And because I do not say that the box lacks gears: the four steps "Japanese" uses on a complete coil.
It is too pleasant for Dansun. The steering wheel is very light, but clear, especially if there is no need to turn them into big corners. The suspension is perfectly configured: the smoothness of the stroke in complete harmony with energy intensity, and the move seems soft even taking into account the fact that the profile of the ON-DO tires is the lowest in our Trinity.
But the brakes frankly disappointed - not effective, no. Convenience - or rather, the inconvenience of management. The pedal move is great, and at first it is empty, and after suddenly effective; However, catch the moment when the quantity goes into quality, with unusual not easy. Therefore, braking is essentially searching - in most cases.
And in general, DanSon is pleasant, although not too contemporary. The big trunk, a well-tuned chassis, a reliable and agile "automatic", as well as belonging to the historic brand, successfully make their own business. DATSUNPOWPE, And now I understand why.
By the way, about the title: Ravon is an abbreviation that should be understood as ReliableActiveVehicleonroad ("Reliable Active Car on the Road"). At the same time, the RAVON word can be translated from the Uzbek language as an "easy way". And you thought!
Unlike the source, which could be a hatchback, "Nexia" is available only in the form of a sedan. Motor is one single: one and a half liters, 106 forces. But there is a choice between the 5-speed "mechanics" and "automatic" about six gears.
The Uzbek car looks familiar: from Aveo Sedan differs only by minor nuances. Not fashionable, but good things - and quite nice to the eye. In the cabin - the same story: not a vintage, but no longer modern. The most expensive version of Elegant is trying to charm an elegantous two, and it turns out that it is even despite the fact that the interior in dark colors will clearly be more practical. Plastic, peculiar, hard everywhere, however, and competitors are no better. Eh, there would be still a leather steering finish - or, as an option, more supportive polyurethane. However, what is not - there is no.
And what is? Air conditioning. Management of the audio system on the steering wheel - too. True, the buttons are located not on the knitting knitting, but on a separate remote to the left of the hub, but it is quite handy to use it, although the switching between radio stations frequencies is not entirely logical. But the sound frankly did not like it: it seems that the sound source is somewhere under the chair: the music stretches Gulko, the voices of tag. And the experiments with aqualizer are not corrected by the situation.
But Klakson sounds good: loud, ringing! Only to use it is inconvenient. You will not force the "Nexia" to vote in the center of the steering wheel - you will have to be aimed with thumbs in the tug buttons on the spokes.
6-speed automatic operation
excellent combined with a 1.5-liter motor. Transmissions can be shifted and manually
No special amenities are observed in the back row:
there is not an armrest, nor even pockets on the backs of the front seats.
The trunk "Raving" is inferior at capacity
both "Logan" and "Danchean". Spare wheel - full-size
I found the cup holders not immediately: it turns out, they are made by drawn and hide in the central console under the ashtray. But I found a button by pressing the mirrors can be folded. I wonder if it can be closed them to the alarm so that when setting the machine on guard they automatically develop? After all, it will have to raise the signaling in any case - yes, at least so that you can open the central lock from the keychain, and not in the old way - the key in the well. This is exactly the most real old school!
The front seats are deprived of heating - however, in the representation of the Uzbek company they assured me that this defects will be corrected over time. The regular parking sensor, by the way, is also not provided, although the question is elementary solved by the installation of sensors in any decent service. But the stabilization system is already in the database, unlike competitors, where ESP privileged top versions. Like his rivals, Ravon in the basic configuration is equipped with only one airbag. It will be not enough!
Despite the fact that the steering column is regulated only on the corner of the tilt, take a convenient position behind the wheel will not work: the ranges of movement of the chair are sufficient, and the pillow is adjustable in height. In the back row, the space is small - at least compared to Logan. Yes, there are no special amenities: neither armrest or even pockets on the backs of the front seats. The cup holder is only one, and that on the floor at the central tunnel.
The trunk "Ravens" is inferior at the capacity of both "Logan" and "DanSube". You can open it either by the button on the driver's door or the key - the well is located near the right lower corner of the license plate. Unlike rivals, the inner part of the cover with finishing, but no closing handles are provided.
By riding qualities, the Uzbek sedan was very good. I did not find a single reason for reproaching the power unit: the motor duet and boxes work extremely flavored. The Nexia gas reacts with barely by intricate delay, but then it's fun in the course, deftly turning over the transmission. The steering wheel is not the easiest in the Trinity, while quite informative. The suspension is more than good in terms of comfort; And although in the smoothness of the move "DanSon", and especially "Renault" looks preferable, in terms of the energy intensity of Ravon, they are unlikely to give way. But the noise of Korean-American "Uzbek" is decent, although not so deafening as the Russian "Japanese" on the winter "rose".
In 2012, generations change occurred, although the B0 platform remained the same. However, the new body and fully recycled interior unequivocalized progress: the current Logan leaves a much more pleasant impression than his predecessor. We have this car appeared a couple of years after the debut of "Dacia", but there was a good reason: the production from Moscow was transferred to Togliatti. The technique of Russian "Logan" differs from Romanian: instead of 3-cylinder turbo turbos, the volume of 0.9 liters, our sedans are equipped with 1.6-liter "fours" with a capacity of 82 and 102 liters. from. From the car of the past generation, as well as the "Nissanovsky" engine of the same volume, which issues 113 forces. An alternative to "mechanics" can be a 4-speed "automatic", as well as a 5-speed "robot" with one clutch. Such a transmission is cheaper, but this is not the case when it is worth saving.
Compared to the first "Logan", the current sedan looks great: everything is clear that this is a designer product. At the same time, entrusted by the main renic artist Laurent Vandenaker Losch is unable to hide the essence of the car: this is, first of all, a car function. The appearance of the sedan promises a spacious salon and a big trunk - and its word holds.
The cargo compartment is unconditionally spacious, but no better than "DanSona". Surprise attached on board causes like a jack and a balon key: it seems strange that all this is not removed in the underground, where the places are plenty - next to the "possessing" you can easily fit a couple of canister with a wash. By the way, in the basic versions of the back of the sofa, Logan does not develop.
Spacious in the back row is really enviable: in this sense, Renault on the head above the competitors. Wide doors facilitate landing, and three adult passengers will easily be easily located on the couch, and with a worthy comfort: a significant stock of space and for legs, and in the head area of \u200b\u200beach of the seds.
In the cheapest "Logan", the steering column is deprived of the adjustment in principle, besides the driver's seat can not be adjusted in height. Our top version of these shortcomings was deprived, and yet, by the convenience of landing, Renault does not reach the "Rayon". Soft chairs, but sitting in them is not as comfortable as I would like. But - what is there, that is.
In general, in terms of ergonomics, the Frenchman is most of all shortcomings. Buttons on the knucks of the steering wheel are not familiar with music, but a cruise control that you use much less. However, without a control panel of the audio system, it still did not cost: the right on the steering column is fixed.
4-speed French "Automatic"
DP2 its non-historical operation spoils the overall impression of the power unit
Spacious in the back row
really enviable: in this sense "Renault" on the head above his competitors
Cargo compartment
unconditionally spacious, but no better than "DanSona". In the basic versions, the sofa back does not develop
From other oddities it should be noted an uncomfortable location - at the base of the seats - buttons of heating of the seats, while there is no indication of its operation. Keys of electric windows rear doors for some reason settled on the central console. Well, at least when changing the generations "Logan", a typically French specialty associated with Klokson: before it was included with the button in the left of the left steering wheel switch, and now the car is ready to submit a voice when pressed to the steering center.
Renault is equipped with a good multimedia system with a touchscreen display and navigation. It is impossible to say anything bad about it, although it is uncomfortable to adjust the volume with the keys - I would prefer the twist. But the glove box is good: deep and roomy, besides, there are pockets on the lid. For complete happiness, it is not enough for the opportunity to close it on the key - however, this remark is true for rivals too.
From the point of view of driving qualities to "Logan" claims a bit. The most important problem is a consistently obsolete "automatic", which grows up the potential of a good motor. Despite the fact that on paper 102-strong Renault circles its competitors, in reality it is perceived by the hardest on the rise: even a much more weaker "Danchean" character is much more minus, not to mention the Ravens. But in what Logan surpasses his opponents, it is in the adjustment of the suspension: it is very pleasant ruling and it provides an amazing smoothness of the stroke. And he has the best insulation in the trio.
But here is no hope: even with a complete set of Renault options does not look ultimitively advantageous against the background of competitors. And at a price noticeably removed from them: our "Logan" is almost 170 thousand more expensive than "DanSon" and more than 200 thousand more expensive "Rayon". And if we put prices for a common denominator, then Renault will greatly play rivals on the equipment. And in general: the LogaNeightlessness without small thousands is not even funny. For this money, you can take Kiario or even a new hyundaisolaris with automatic transmission, and in not the most unexposed equipment. And these are cars of a fundamentally different technological level.
Datsun ON-DO
Despite its true origin, attracts truly a huge luggage compartment, a high road lumen and perfectly adapted to our non-frosted roads. On the interior decoration, this car is obviously inferior to rivals, but this circumstance cannot be called a serious disadvantage. But from the point of view of maintainability, "DanSon" will be clearly preferable: it is extremely simple in design, and parts for it can be found anywhere. The engine is perfectly combined with the Japanese "automatic", and the price is by no means beyond. In general, a good option for the maternity owner, especially for the one who intends to exploit the car outside the large cities.
Decent choice of pragmatic man. This sedan is devoid of essential flaws and is already sympathetic. Despite the fact that the design of the Uzbek car dates back to the beginning of two thousandths, thanks to the long-term modernization of "Nexia" and to this day looks good against the background of younger competitors. An excellent combination of engine and transmission gives "Ravon" worthy driving qualities. The rear row is cleared, besides, it lacks the heating of the front seats, however, because of these shortcomings, it is not necessary to give up the purchase of the car. A problem of the lack of remote control of the central locking will solve the setting of alarm. Given the adequate price of R3 looks very successful acquisition.
Surely you will like the one who puts the capacity of the cabin and the smoothness of the stroke - there are no equal in this qualities of the French car in its class! The current "Logan" compared to his non-zeal predecessor was noticeably attached and looked, but it clearly felt the economic essence that did not hide advanced options like multimedias with navigation and climate control. But in terms of security, Renault should be better than competitors - if, of course, to upset the stabilization system and side airbags. But such a Logan is more expensive than the "Rayon" and "DanSona", and then the temptation may appear to pay attention to Korean cars.
Datsun ON-DO
The cheapest sedan in the ACCESS configuration with an 82-strong engine and 5-speed MCP is estimated at 436,000 rubles. The base is empty as the drum: neither "Conday", nor stabilization, nor "music", no central locking - only an amplifier steering and driver airbag and heated seats. The car with air conditioning (version of Trust II) costs from 492,000, and such an ON-DO with a "automatic" - 50,000 more expensive. By the way, a modification with the automatic control can be taken without air conditioning for 518,000 rubles. The machine is optimal in the configuration of Trust III with air conditioning, music with a USB-inlet, and a safety pillow for a passenger: 502,000 with "mechanics" and 552,000 rubles. with "automatic".The factory warranty on Datsun is 3 years or 100,000 km of run, and the interservice interval is 15,000 km.
Prices for Nexia begin from 479,000 rubles for a sedan with a 5-speed "mechanics" and 1.5 liter engine (106 forces). The basic version of Comfort has already included "music" and a system of dynamic stabilization, but no air conditioning. It makes sense to pay extra 30,000 for a complete set of Optimum, in which the central locking, electric and heating mirrors, front electrical windows, 15-inch wheels and some more trifles are also served in addition to the air conditioner. Supplement for Avtomat - 40,000: such a car will cost 549,000 rubles. The most expensive version with two-color salon, cast discs, multifunctional steering wheel and other joys costs from 559,000.
Warranty on RAVON - 3 years or 100,000 km. Interrevice mileage - 15,000 km.
The price list opens a sedan with an 82-strong engine and a 5-speed "mechanical" in the ACCESS package for 479,000 rubles. In the next configuration Confort (from 549,900 rubles) You can already choose a power unit: a machine with a motor 82 hp And the "robot" will cost 570,000, a 113-strong engine on the "hand" is estimated at 590,000, and with a 102-power engine and a 4-speed "automatic" - 620,000. However, this sedan has no air conditioner and audio system. They can be ordered separately for 29 990 and 10 990, respectively, but it is better to immediately take a more expensive configuration of ACTIVE (from 630 990 rubles), where all this is already good is - it will be much more profitable.
Warranty on Renault is limited to three years or mileage of 100,000 km. Attending the service will have every 15,000 km.
Ilya Pimenov and Natalia Nononova - editor and deputy editor, respectively, conducted a comparative test drive Datsun on-do and Renault Logan. These two sedans in the Russian market appeared just a couple of months ago and are not yet too familiar to Russian motorists. Despite this, according to the authors of the comparative test drive, both cars have a big credit credit: "Datsun on-do - a reputation of Nissan and close relatives with the already well-studied Lada Granta, Renault Logan 2 - the popularity of the predecessor and the authority of Renault."
As the authors are specified in the comparative review, the Datsun ON-DO sedan, created on the basis of Lada Granta, was presented on April 4, 2014. From the Russian car, it is distinguished by an elongated rear breath, reinforced with noise insulation, dashboard and armchairs, shock absorbers, design of the front and rear parts of the body, a vacuum brake amplifier, improved door locks. Release Danchean on, as well as a grant, in Tolyatti, at AvtoVAZ capacities.
Renault Logan second generation for the Russian market is collected in the same place since the end of March this year. A sedan is an independent model of the Renault-Nissan Alliance, created on the Dacia M0 platform (related to the global platform Nissan B0). From the European Russian version of the sedan is distinguished by external design and characteristics.
For a comparative test drive, journalists took Datsun on-do in configuration trust with a 1.6-liter engine and a 5-speed MCP, as well as Renault Logan Privilege with a similar volume engine and a 5-speed "mechanics. The price of Datsun on-do and Renault Logan is respectively in Russia 389,000 and 486,000 rubles.
About the appearance of Datsun on-do Journalists write: "In the appearance of Datsun, its origin from the" grants ", and the" Japanese ", compared to the" Russian woman ", looks less proportional - due to a long trunk." Also, journalists were shared by their opinion regarding Logan: "Logan harmonious (he is not someone else's, but his own face, invented by the Dutch Laurence Van den Aker) and more proportional. You can criticize the wide body racks, a beveled hood, the overall weight of the appearance. "
Similar emotions arose from journalists and when inspecting the interior of Datsun on-do and Renault Logan: "Datsun - Ex-" grant ", just with a" trimmed "dashboard, more comfortable (i.e. hard) seats and their icon on the steering wheel. The display of the audio system is monochrome, and from behind on the doors - semi-forgotten manual windows. Plastic ringing, inexpensive. The quality of materials in Renault is not fundamentally better, but the interior is rich. And on the rear seats it is more convenient in "Logan" - the back is rejected back, the sofa is not so flat, you sit in a relaxed pose, and not both in front of the dentist's office, with a straight back. "
They told journalists about how Datsun on-do and Renault Logan on the road behave. On Danchen, he write the following: "Once again I admire the living character of a vazovsky 87-strong eight-point with a lightweight connecting rod-piston group. And how well it combines with this gearbox: the power unit allows you to maintain a very high pace of movement. Would worked even more clear gear mechanism! And due to active driving, the front pads are already built, although the odometer is a funny kilometer. Compared to the "grant" in it, until quieter, but the box will also live, and the steering wheel is the same "empty" and the suspension is the same roll. However, it does not interfere with riding cheerful. And as soon as a catchy inconvenience in the city pays off, it is only worth going to a bad asphalt road or a primer: the suspension extinguishes scary to the species of the Cold and Pubs. "
Less impressed the journalists Renault Logan: "The first" Logan "was famous for okay. In the second, she was not doing anywhere, only the suspension became tougher. Yes, and the ease of ease of ease now, unfortunately, no. At this car I want to drive a powerful than on the first "Logan", and on the same ON-DO. Ergonomics are already quite human, even the buttons of the windows at hand and the Klasson button on the steering wheel itself, and not on the steering wheel lever. "
Summing up the comparative test drive Datsun on-do and Renault Logan Ilya Pimenov writes: "We will call things about our own names: both of these cars are one hundred percent" workhorses ", and buy them for the last money, often on credit. In this case, it is obvious that Datsun wins at cost. But if you assume that I am a buyer and is able to score to half a million, I would prefer Renault Logan. It also looks more, and the finish is better, and on the go more comfortable. All the little things, but the choice often depends on such trifles. "
Natalia Nononova, in turn, notes: "Several years ago I was in a situation that my colleague Ilya described: there was quite some money, and a car was very necessary. So, today I would not have rejected from the list "Logan" - it is very good for all indicators, including the exterior. But "Dansun" ... He reminded me of "99th", which I was the third owner: it goes well, but the feeling that now something vital will fall off, does not leave ... "
Danchen Os-before or Renault Logan is not an easy choice between the models of the budget segment. What is better - dear, but a proven French sedan or a young and more affordable Japanese model?Dananches ON-TO or new Renault Logan? Indeed, the question is not easy. Renault competition is felt by the Japanese model all the stronger, and after all, Logan 2-cores of the market, and he is not going to take a beginnings of the segment newcomer, albeit popularity every day.
Danchean on-to - a new player in the market!
So can he-until successfully compete with the car, whose presence in the budget car segment is already granted? In addition, the Dance brand is part of the Renault-Nissan Alliance.
New generation of Renault Logan 2 generation is a serious competitor in the segment.
What is better than Danches he-before or Renault Logan?
Here the situation is quite slippery. It can be recognized that Logan is more famous and popular with motorists. However, it is impossible to argue that it seriously exceeds Danches in this regard. The French sedan remains one of the class leaders, but not due to the prestige of its emblem.
It is not so prestiguous as Renault.
Of course, there is also a previous generation of Logan, but it is clear to everyone that it will not be able to compete long with the new one, so it will soon be implemented.
Logan has long been highly quoted on the market.
Compare body type Duration and Renault Logan
In the body gamma Renault Logan there is only a sedan.
"French", for his part, can oppose solely sedan. So you can safely recognize that the Japanese car is more practical.
Danchean can also offer hatchback.
Comparison of the exalt view of Danchen on and new Renault Logan
The appearance of the new generation of Logan is noticeably better than the previous one. It turned out to be more stylish and rapid. Direct, pedantic lines disappeared, whose place now occupy smooth bends and transitions. Almost all its body panels - bumper, hood, doors, optics, etc., have changed. However, some budget decisions, such as recesses, handles on the doors, still persist.
The exterior of the new Logan is much more attractive than last.
Danchean looks stylish enough and modern. It is proportional and harmonious. However, the Japanese sedan does not have the gloss and charm, which the "French" emitters. Consequently, it can be said that Logan in this category has some advantage, although not overwhelming.
Exterior He is not so noteworthy, but still not bad.
Datured engines ON and Renault Logan
Both sedans have atmospheric power units. No new-fashioned technical solutions, such as turbocharging or direct fuel injection, there is no. Both the Japanese and the French acted for sure, equipping their models extremely simple and unpretentious engines equipped with injectors and distributed injections, and some of their options intersect.
Some engines on common models.
And the one, and the other model have 2 power units. They are all 1,6-liter, 4-cylinder, but their characteristics differ, and some very significantly.
Engine with a capacity of 82 liters. from.
Open List 82-Strong engines. These are 8-valve structures that have both competitors. Despite the same power, Logan reaches it a bit faster on - up to - by 5,000 revolutions, against 5 100, respectively. And with respect to torque, the advantage is even more - 134 nm against 132 Newtons. And most importantly, the peak of their achievement is below - 2,800 revolutions, while Danchen is 3,800 revolutions. Both engines are focused on refueling 95th gasoline, but he-before, while, configured to EURO-4 standards, while his opponent is on the norms of Euro-5.
The power units of the alliance, though reliable, but too voracious.
Regarding appetite, it has a lot of this engine - in the city he needs about 10 liters of fuel, which is clearly a bit for such modest characteristics. Dynamics also does not have ahti - about 12 seconds. up to hundreds.
Engines with a capacity of 87 liters. from. and 102 liters. from.
But the next Renault Logan engine is superior to that of Dananches he-before. These are already 16-valve structures. The engine he is developing its 87 liters. from. At 5,100 revolutions, complementing it with a 140 Nm burden by 3,800 revs.
Renault is able to oppose it 102 liters. p., Available on 5,750 revolutions, and another 145 nm of torque, which is 3,750 revolutions. As can be seen, despite the serious advantage in the power, in the pull it is not one - Reno only slightly surpasses the Japanese sedan.
The engine at Dansun is infertility.
However, despite the essential advantage of Logan in dynamic parameters - 10.5 seconds. against 12.2 sec. to weave, in relation to the consumption of a combustible picture is similar. So, the "Frenchman" is required in the city of 9.4 liters, while "Japanese" only a little less - 9 liters.
Follow the machines need AI-95, but if Logan has euro-5 settings, then it has euro-4.
Danches and Renault Logan Gearboxes
In this regard, everything is equally - both sedans are equipped with infertility mechanical, 5-speed transmissions. Consequently, in this category there should be parity, but it is not possible, since Danchesong Mi-up, which is produced in the body of the hatchback, there is a 4-band automatic transmission of traditional, hydrotransformer design. Of course, the presence of only 4 months cannot be called a special reason for pride, but there is nothing to oppose this French model.
Motor Logan is compactly placed in the engine compartment.
Are there any differences in Logan and Danchean suspension?
Structurally, it is identical to the models. No complex technical solutions in the chassis of machines are not used. The scheme proven by decades has been adopted - these are McPherson-type racks installed on the front axle, as well as a torsion beam from behind. Such a layout allows you to achieve an ideal ratio in price, functionality and reliability.
Both cars feel good in the city and on the track, efficiently work out irregularities and level the wave star at high speeds. For this you have to pay impulvitivity in turns and not too sharp steering.
Torsion beam is a reliable and proven design.
The drive of the models exclusively front. The brake system is also a classic - the front axis is equipped with disc brake mechanisms, and the drums installed on the rear designers. But with an amplifier of the steering wheel there are differences. So, Renault Logan uses a traditional hydraulic structure, while Danchen is equipped with an electrical mechanism.
Differences inside the cabin dance and Renault Logan
Salon models is distinguished variety. General features, in the form of round deflectors on the sides of the torpedo and lines of glove box, are preserved, but otherwise all different.
The interior of the new Renault is much more attractive than the past generation.
In general, Logan's interior looks more attractive - it is more harmonious, the dashboard is elegant, the metal handles in the doors give the gloss, etc. With ergonomics, both models are not observed - the location of the management bodies are clearly intuitive, the visibility is not bad, the steering wheel is convenient, the dashboard testimony The panels are read in the fraction of a second, etc.
Torpedo it is convenient and high quality.
In general, it can be said that the dance salon on-to-up is the most functional set, while some charm has also been added to these qualities, which is also very valued in often fabric, budget models.
Compare the prices and configuration of Logan and Danches
Basic equipment
Thus, in the most accessible modification of Access (and for Logan, and for it, the French sedan has only a driver's pillow, an ISOFIX type fasteners, a fabric lounge and 15-inch discs. Even the steering amplifier requires surcharge at 13,000 rubles.
In the minimum configuration, the model has only a minimum set of amenities.
Duration, in addition, there is also electronic systems (EBD, ABS, EBA), adjusting the steering wheel and heating the front armchairs. That's just 14 inches. But the main thing is the price. After all, if it is necessary to give 376,000 rubles for it in the database, then the dealer will require 454,000 rubles at once! And the difference in 78,000 rubles. Very weight for the budget car segment. With an increase in cost, the number of options gradually increases.
Even in the database, Logan's salon looks good.
Top versions
As for the top packages (Dream for ON and LUXE Privilege for Renault), then the number of options are approximately equal. So, safety is provided with a set of frontal and side pillows, and also electronic systems. Moreover, in relation to the last one-to-to-noticeable advantage, since there is only ABS and EBD against its electronics in the face of EBD, ABS, EBA and ESP, and the ESP will have to pay extra 10,000 rubles.
Top modification It is noticeable for a large monitor in the center of the torpedo.
Salon at models fabric, but Logan has a leather steering wheel. Comfort in the cabin of cars is provided by light and rain sensors, a complete electric car and heating, rear parking sensors, as well as climate control. But Logan has an advantage in the face of cruise control and adjustment of the driver's seat height.
Like Danchen, Renault also has a display in the top version.
Multimedia includes a color display, Bluetooth system and MP3 support. It boasts navigation, for which in Logan is required to additionally give 10,000 rubles. But the Renault has a multi. Regarding cost, then the gap is more than noticeable. So, he will have to give to the dealer of 492,000 rubles, while Logan is estimated at 617,000 rubles. And this is excluding surcharge 20 000 rubles. For ESP and navigation.
What to choose in the end? Dananches ON-TO or new Renault Logan?
Both models are high-quality and harder cars. But the serious difference in the cost determines its niche for each of them.
In the presented plot, professional visits are given a detailed comparison of these models:
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Test Drive New Logan + Car Overview
Test Drive New Logan 2014, which has changed in the budget sedan
In a test drive, a presenter talks about the technological features, comfort, the features of the tested configuration, the problems with which the car owner may face and what distinguishes this brand of the car from the rest. The main and additional options that are important for drivers can interest them or become key when choosing a car.
Inevitably there was a comparison with the previous model: the developers have improved many options, upgraded the already existing functions and added new ones. The presenter speaks of the most significant changes for the car owner, their advantages and minuses.
The first thing is focused on the survey of the car - the driver's seat. Tell about the convenience of the driver's seat itself, the possibilities of its adjustment. An overview of the control panel is made in terms of convenience, its main functions have been demonstrated. The audio system is considered, additional functionality is given. The quality of the finishing material is estimated. Proposals made on the possibilities of further improvement.
The rear row of the chairs is considered from the point of view of its capacity and convenience for passengers with a different complex. Ways to adjust the chairs. An additional opportunities for passengers sitting from behind are shown.
Separately, the presenter talks about the trunk. It is described about its capacity and opportunities for an increase in useful volume. Established the convenience of loading and unloading, as well as the possibility of transporting large-sized goods.
With a test drive, a car is checked comforting the city. The rigidity of the suspension is estimated, entering the turn and other important moments for the driver. The presenter talks about his own feelings, as well as what can appeal and do not like another driver.
Separately, riding on uneven road surfaces is also tested and describes the control features when driving around the unconfalined road. The presenter compares the difference when driving in urban conditions and outside the city. The viewer can see what can be expected from the car when driving around the countryside or on forest roads.
Big test drive new Logan
Big test drive from Sergei Stallavina and Rustam Vakhidova. Fun and humor will be told about the new Renault Logan. Tell about the technological features, comfort of driving, features of the configuration, and what distinguishes this brand of the car from the rest. The main and additional options that are important for drivers can interest them or become key when choosing a car.
Stallavin tested the rear row of chairs with his not small growth.
Separately made a large trunk review. They told and showed its capacity and opportunities for increasing the useful volume. Established the convenience of loading and unloading, as well as the possibility of transporting large-sized goods. Rustam, as usual, flew in the trunk.
Driver's seat. The leaders told about the convenience of the driver's seat, the possibilities of its adjustment. An overview of the control panel is made in terms of convenience, its main functions have been demonstrated. Considered the audio system, led additional functionality. Evaluated the quality of the finishing material.
With a test drive, the car tested the comfort of driving around the city. Estimated the stiffness of the suspension, entering the rotation and other important moments for the driver. Leaders told about their own feelings, as well as what could like and not like another driver.
Comparison of Danches He-before and Renault Logan, who is better and more convenient.
Overview - Comparison of two Renault Logan cars in minimal configuration and Danches it-to-to-maximum configuration. Such a strange choice was made due to the fact that only in such a layout their price becomes equal to each other.
At the beginning, as usual, two cars were told about the main differences, without forgetting about what makes them similar to each other. He touched the theme of the packages and the available additional equipment told to whom and what is available.
For all budget vehicles among the most important and most popular functions are the capacity of the trunk and the second row of seats. This two parameters are devoted to a significant part of the review in which car trunk are shown, their size and ease of loading and use are associated. The rear rows of seats were also subject to careful comparison, the presenter compared the number of space around the passenger as well as comfort about the stay.
Since the car is a means of movement, and a budget car is a vehicle in double, it was natural that most of the review is devoted to driving. In a comparative test drive, he is told about the car suspension, the presenter estimated their energy intensity, comfort and noise of work.
Comparison of car dynamics was carried out but rather at the level of sensations from driving, since no test was conducted and in these parameters will have to rely only on the authority of the lead.
The automobile management bodies in the presented configurations also compared. After parallel, the author invites us to make a choice between the price and the number of available equipment.
A good and complete comparison of cars on the basis of which you can make your conclusions about what car is closer for you and what you are willing to sacrifice.
It is best to try to try yourself than 2 times to see, so sign up for a test drive to the nearest salon.
The chief editor of one of the popular publications in the automotive sphere, together with its deputy, a comparative test of popular Datsun on-do or Renault Logan was performed. Both updated representatives of the budget car appeared in the automotive world not so long ago, so domestic motorists are experiencing genuine interests.
The authors of the test drive insist on the fact that both small triggers acquired enviable confidence of fans. Recall that the "back" Datsun on-do is the authority of Nissan, and Logan is a product of an equally popular Renault brand. Many want to know what is better from the cars represented, for this will make a comparison.
DATSUN ON-DO and RENAULT LOGAN models features
It is interesting to observe how two representatives of one concern compete, what is better than Datsun on-do or Renault Logan?
Recall that Datsun on-do borrowed a modular platform from Lada Granta and was first represented by the automotive public in 2014. This car, as the test authors consider, has:
- elongated swelling;
- improved soundproofing salon space;
- recycled panel;
- comfortable chairs;
- energy-intensive suspension due to new shock absorbers;
- system of vacuum strengthening of brake mechanisms;
- modified central locking.
This promising sedan is produced at the facilities of the Russian Giant AvtoVAZ in Tolyatti.
The 2nd Generation of Renault Logan began to be made in March of this year. The model is positioned as an independent product from the famous Renault Nissan Alliance. The basis for building a model served as a popular platform "M0", at one time used for the design of Dacia. This platform is a related product for the B0 base, which is used on a global scale when designing models under the Nissan brand.
If you compare with the European modification, then the Russian version of Logan has a number of differences. This applies not only to exterior appearance, but also some technical aspects.
To heal interest in the test, journalists are not accidentally chosen:
- Datsun with a 1,6-liter power plant and a mechanical five-speed transmission unit (complete set "Trust");
- Renault Logan performed by Privilege with an identical volume motor and "mechanics" with 5-steps.
What is more profitable for Datsun on-Do or Renault Logan? Immediately, I will immediately say that the price of Datsun is a more advantageous offer, because this complete set of this car is estimated at 389 thousand rubles, compared to Logan and its price of 486 thousand rubles. Very weighty argument. However, you should compare everything.
Exteriors Datsun on-do and Renault Logan
We continue the comparison to understand that it is better from two cars Danchen it is before or Renault Logan. In the exterior of ON-DO, journalists of the progress of very similar features with a grant and note that, compared to the Russian Datsun, the Datsun lacks proportionality due to an excessive luggage compartment.
There were no representatives of the automotive press to relent and add to the "Frenchman". They determined the appearance of Logan as more balanced and harmonious. The design was created under the guidance of the famous Dutch of Lorenz Van den Aer. Small critics were awarded the lateral body racks "Frenchman" due to their excessive width. Also a beveled hood for some critics caused an association with body weight. Continue comparison.
Interiors compared models
When moving to comparing the interiors of Danchen, it is up to or Reno Logan, journalists were filled with similar sensations with respect to both models. Looking at Datsun, they told that this is the same grant, only with a more attractive instrument panel, comfortable armchairs and its own logo in the center of the steering wheel. The audio system has an ordinary monochrome screen. The drive of glasses in the rear doors is endowed with an archaic manual mechanism. Most plastic cabin panels are hard and "ringing" when tapping with your fingers.
Finishing materials in Renault noticeably better quality. In general, the equipment of the cabin is richer. The rear landing series "Frenchman" will give greater comfort. This contributes to the optimal tilt of the backrest and the profiltity of the sofa pillow, allowing to be pressed relaxed.
Riding quality machines
This interesting moment of DanSon models is before or Renault Logan journalists also did not bypassed. About behavior on the roadbed, they respond as follows.
Danchean pleased with a mischievous temper due to the age-valve 8-valve motor borrowed from VAZ. Although his return is small - only 87 "horses", but configuring responsiveness to acceleration is excellent. The developers made a right step, equipping this unit with clotted pistons and connecting rods. The box also has a successful combination of gear gifters, which allows you to hold a wide circuit in a wide range of revolutions. The only complaint is fuzzy switching and hum. At this stage, many have already decided what is better.
Pads in the front brake mechanisms after a "trifle" mileage begin to annoy the creak. The behavior of the car practically copies the grant, because the box also "sings" on the turnover, the steering wheel is not deprived of the void (lack of feedback) during maneuvering, and the suspension is the same roll. Although there is a little positive in these features of Datsun. Because of the enviable energy intensity, the suspension allows you to "swallow" such pits that seem at first glance insurmountable for this basement.
Also did not leave indifferent journalists and Logan. About the "omnivities" suspension could be argued when the first generation was produced. Now the chassis as a whole has become tougher, and previously inherent ease of movement is poorly felt.
If you compare, the ergonomics in the cabin has become better. The Classone button developers were transferred to a traditional place - on the steering bag, thereby avoiding the complaints of picky owners, as it took place in the first generation, when the button was present on the steering lever. What is better to choose to you, dance it is before or Renault Logan.
Let's summarize
Both auto Danchen is before or Reno Logan imply everyday operation, being "work horses". Personally acquire their practical people and with a small prosperity, which is confirmed by numerous existing credit programs. Datsun has a weighty plus - this is a smaller price that most situations can become a decisive factor. In any case, a choice for the buyer, and our task is to help him in identifying the strengths and weaknesses of the models in question here, for this, a full comparison was carried out.
