Easy and dynamic movement both in city mode and on spacious country roads. Impeccable response and shift precision. Reliability and moderate fuel consumption. This is exactly how most car enthusiasts see an ideal gearbox. For ŠKODA, this gearbox was a direct-shift transmission, better known as DSG. Even short review allows you to appreciate its unconditional advantages.
DSG: design and operating principle
Development of a transmission that would combine the convenience of a classic automatic transmission and mechanical system management lasted more than one year. And only in 2008, a unique system of its kind was introduced under the abbreviation DSG ( Direct Shift Gearbox, which immediately received the famous Golden Angel award for smart and environmental innovation. After some time, such gearboxes began to be installed on various configurationsŠKODA cars.
What makes this 7-speed transmission unique is: design features:
The 7-speed DSG demonstrates excellent compatibility with small engines, and its power limit is 125 kW with a torque of 250 N/m.
Innovations for ŠKODA: overview of the benefits of gearboxes
Today DSG gearbox all equipped the lineupŠKODA. The high demand for such a transmission is ensured by the following advantages:
- fast, accurate and precise switching in any driving mode - an advantage that every car owner notes when describing his car;
- low fuel consumption – according to expert estimates, ŠKODA cars with gearbox of this type consume 8.7% less gasoline than manual cars and 22% less than a traditional automatic;
- comfortable movement both on the highway and in heavy traffic;
- impressive reliability – exactly what ŠKODA cars are famous for!
For all ŠKODA models, the DSG remains one of the most pleasant and convenient options for both experienced drivers, and novice car enthusiasts. High techŠKODA AUTO has always been welcomed - in the pursuit of perfection, all existing means are good!
All the disadvantages of Skoda Octavia 2017-2018
➖ Build quality➖ Problematic gearbox (versions with robot DSG 7)➖ Oil consumption➖ Stiff suspension
pros
➕ Handling➕ Spacious interior➕ Economical➕ Spacious trunk➕ Design
The advantages and disadvantages of the Skoda Octavia A7 2017-2018 in a new body were identified based on reviews real owners. More detailed benefits and cons of Skoda Octavia 1.6 and 1.8 with manual and automatic, as well as 1.4 with DSG robot with front and all-wheel drive 4x4 can be found in the stories below:
Owner reviews
Great design. Big spacious salon. Excellent sound insulation. Just a huge and roomy trunk of the correct shape. Not bad ground clearance with PPD suspension (even included in the base). Electronic systems Help is available even in the database. Good visibility. A salon without excesses, as they say, is simple and boring, but I just like it - there are no excesses and cheap Chinese stuff. The plastic of the torpedo is soft.
High-torque engine, which this moment didn’t eat a single gram of butter (on the forums it is confirmed that 1.8 TSI oil doesn't eat anymore). Economical, easily fits 6 liters on the highway, and an average of 9 liters in the city. It is possible to disable auxiliary systems. Separate climate control. All kinds of pockets and drawers. Heated washer nozzles are a very useful thing in winter.
The plastic on the doors is still hard, but it does not make noise and is pleasant to the eye; on the other hand, it is easier to clean. Factory radio. The passenger seat in front is a little higher, this is not usual.
The owner drives Skoda Octavia 1.8 (180 hp) on mechanics 2014
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Reliability, good handling, comfort, fuel consumption, reasonable prices for spare parts and maintenance.
On the downside: this is what the designers (or engineers, or marketers) of Skoda thought when they placed the washer fluid filler neck and the attachment point for the “poker” to hold the hood in one place?
Next, the aerodynamics of the body in the area of the mirrors: five minutes of driving at a decent speed in rainy weather and that’s it - nothing is visible in the mirrors, and there is a thick layer of dirt on the glass (precisely in the area of the mirrors). The next moment is small fuel tank(about 45 liters). And finally - the rear beam.
Konstantin Goncharov, drives a Skoda Octavia 2.0d (143 hp) AT 2013
Economical and high-torque engine. Spacious trunk.
Lottery assembly. The doors don't close well. Radiator knocking when driving over bumps. Poor sound insulation. Strong rolls in corners and poor stability on the highway. Frequent breakdowns rear suspension. Bolero glitches in cold weather.
Review of Skoda Octavia A7 1.4 manual 2014
The suspension is moderately stiff, my back constantly hurts. Everything is good with the equipment. Bi-xenon theme, Speakerphone- topic, heated all seats. The sound sucked. Be sure to make noise on the arches and doors, which is exactly what I did.
Over 6,500 km I added 400 grams of oil - verdict: it doesn’t eat much. The trunk is large - everything is clear here. The brakes are good, but God forbid you overheat. Everything is fine with the DSG, only the sound when driving over bumps is as if a bucket of bolts was attached to the car.
Sound. Standard system frank g...o. The speakers are made in China, apparently made from compressed monkey poop. I installed an active sub under the seat and it improved the situation a bit. This minus will not affect Canton owners - the speakers and sound are fine there.
Some interior elements look cheap. Save on the little things. There is no insulation under the hood, there is no gas stop for the hood, there were no floor mats in the car for 1 million! Kick me for being obnoxious, but there must be rugs!
Alexey Dozhdev, drives a Skoda Octavia 1.8 (180 hp) automatic, 2014.
The 1.4 turbo engine is especially impressive, the dynamics are super! Trunk, handling, efficiency and great dynamics. In general, the car is full of advantages... And one would be happy and happy, but after almost a year the question arose about “draining” this car into a trade-in for the reason unreliable box DSG 7.
Three clutch replacements in 9 months! Mileage less than 30,000 km. Before purchasing, I read about the problems of this box, but not so much! This is the main disadvantage, which covers a bunch of small jambs like bad noise, howling air conditioner compressor, poor body rigidity (when the car is on an uneven surface, the doors open/close poorly), glitches of the Bolero touch radio in wet weather (it switches radio stations on its own, does not respond on clicks) and many others.
But these are all trifles in comparison with the eternal breakdowns of one of the main components of the car - the gearbox.
Ilya Popov, review of Skoda Octavia 1.4 (140 hp) automatic transmission 2013
I compare it with the previous Octavia. The car has become a little larger, the dynamics are the same, considering that there is an automatic transmission. He eats on average 1-1.5 liters less. Based on the reviews, I expected this engine to burn oil. The fears were not justified. Ugh three times. The trunk is just as big, but it's much more practical in a station wagon.
Heavy trunk lid. If it's covered in snow, it's hard to lift it to get the brush out of the trunk. With this engine there is a beam at the back. In winter on sharp turns, at increased speed, the rear is trying to go into a skid. In previous ones there was independent suspension, and the car took turns as if on rails. The suspension is a little harsh. It's the shock absorber struts.
There were a lot of cars, but for the first time it was automatic. The sensitive upshifts (from 1 to 2 and then to 3 speed) when cold were confusing, but as soon as the box warms up, the shocks disappear. The dealers said that's how the machines work. Now I'm used to it.
Review of Skoda Octavia 1.6 (110 hp) with automatic 2016
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The 1.8 engine with 180 horsepower was very impressive. Huge power reserves at any speed. Traveling on the highway became just a walk. Overtaking has become elementary - 3 seconds and that’s it! Consumption on the highway is less than 7 liters at speeds of 130-150 and the air conditioning is on, in the city - 10 liters.
A very comfortable box, both in normal mode and in sports. Very soft shifts, quick response to the gas pedal. The stabilization system is absolutely fire!
The car is very stable on the road - 80 km/h is like walking. Handling is excellent. And, of course, a liftback body! Huge trunk! This is great family car with the opportunity to drive dynamically.
Review of Skoda Octavia 1.8 (180 hp) with robot 2017
Competitors Citroen C4, Ford Focus, Geely Emgrand 7, Hyundai Elantra, KIA Cerato, Lifan Solano, Mazda 3, Nissan Sentra, Skoda Octavia, Toyota Corolla, Volkswagen Jetta
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Discussion DSG7 on Octavia A7
Posted by bagetPlease don’t judge me too much if the questions seem idiotic at first glance, but you obviously need to get used to the box. All this comes from my personal desire not to mess things up and prolong its life as much as possible. For example, I already know what NOT to do on it (such as starting in the floor from a standstill, and it can be heated with just a little movement), but I want to take even more into account useful tips from those who have had a decent trip to VYP. If only they knew how my acquaintances, friends, and relatives look at me after buying a car with VYP and all the scandals with this box. At least like an idiot, but I would be happy to prove that VYP is more alive than anyone else alive) )
Those who have driven a decent amount of time to the VTOL (for 100,000 on one clutch) are trail runners.
They always use normal, confident pressure on the gas, normal average speeds of the maximum torque zone of 1500-3500, rarely change gears when driving (either accelerating or slowing down countless times, as many do in the city), etc.
Take this into account in your daily city driving.
1) when starting, press the “gas” as you would on a regular manual transmission (you don’t need to try to “sorry” anything and give the gas, but you don’t need to press the pedal to the floor either). Everything should be in moderation.
2) avoid unnecessary acceleration and deceleration in D mode (drive, accelerating sharply/braking sharply/accelerating again - it’s better to choose S). This all affects adaptation and, accordingly, the further comfort of switching.
3) try (if possible) to move in D so that the revolutions are kept at least 1500 (if it doesn’t go into D due to difficult conditions on the road - select manual mode and maintain these speeds in the gear you need there).
Fewer switchings, longer operation of each clutch in a compressed state (revolutions not lower than 1500 +/- 200) - longer your operation of the VPU without requests for replacement of components (primarily the clutch).
And vice versa, allow mechatronics to switch more often, drive almost constantly Idling, off-road riding, etc. and so on. - and your replacements will begin with the clutch (there are plenty of similar examples here and there, not counting outright defects).
All this is not at all difficult to adhere to, and this allows you to move even in the city at a pace similar to the highway - where there are fewer switches/higher revs (which is ideal for VEP).
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Which transmission oil poured into classic machine gun Octavia A7? how many liters and how often does it change?
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Hello, can you tell me what is the name of the automatic transmission on the Octavia A7? who produces it?
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Good afternoon, I have this problem: the swing radio doesn’t work, but the radio works, it doesn’t read CDs and the flasks.
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Good afternoon I’m going to buy a Skoda Octavia with a DSG robotic gearbox, they say it’s falling apart, but it’s important to properly look after and operate it. Tell me how to do this correctly in order to extend the service life and avoid getting repaired? What are the differences between DSG6 and 7? which is more reliable?
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Good afternoon I had this situation - I left the house, decided to start the car (Octavia 2014, automatic transmission), but there was a fan noise under the hood (the car was turned off), I started it - it wouldn’t start, the brake pedal was locked, they took it on a tow truck for diagnostics (not to the officials) - they don’t see the engine control unit. They don’t know what the problem is, has anyone encountered this?
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Hello, I’ve been looking for a car for two months now, but nothing. I’ll say right away that I’m 47 years old, a car for a family of three, 80% use in the city, the rest is highway, crossover or C-class, it doesn’t matter, I’m considering a new car, but maybe someone will convince you. The choice after the test drive fell on the one hand to the Octavia A-7 1.8 on the handle (it’s a pity that there is no automatic with 1.8) and on the other hand to the Qashqai 1.6 CVT, diesel (as an option 2.0 petrol) In terms of price, they are about the same, I like both cars, well, which will be more marketable, maybe more reliable and better in operation is a hard question for me to choose. I would be grateful for your opinion and practical advice.
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What spare parts are included? repair kit Timing belt?
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Please tell me which one engine oil and with what tolerances is it better to pour 1.4 140 hp into the Skoda Octavia A7? with a mileage of 50,000 km. ?! Conflicting information everywhere! The tolerances in the book are 502-504, some say 502-505, some 504-507... and which is better, 5w30 or 5w40 and recommended manufacturers? Thank you!
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Where is the buzzer located reverse Skoda Octavia A7
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Someone tell me. The problem is this: the right windshield washer nozzle began to spray with a stream, although it is fan-shaped. I bought a new one, changed it and nothing has changed, on the contrary, the stream has become larger and hits all the way to the roof. And for some unknown reason, the washer rear window I also started barely watering... I tried cleaning it with a needle and blowing it with air, it didn’t help... What could be the problem?
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Hello! Will I be able to put 225x55 tires on standard Skoda R16 wheels instead of 205/55?
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How will the dynamics of movement change? Will the car be more stable on the track due to an increase in the contact patch with the road? Or, on the contrary, due to the increase in tire height, will the car begin to “float” when cornering and accelerate sluggishly when overtaking? engine for Octavia A7, which one is suitable, and after how many kilometers should it be changed?
The first cars with robotic gearboxes DSGs appeared in Russia in the early 2000s. Since that time, the boxes have been modernized many times, both units with dry clutch and wet clutch.
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The most problematic is the 7-speed DQ200 robot with a double dry clutch. The reason lies in the design features of this gearbox. It is a simplified and cheaper version of a wet-type robot, which is designed for significantly lower torque. This immediately leads to disadvantages: rougher shifts and accelerated wear of the clutch discs.
The 7-speed robot DQ200 has 2 modifications. The very first received the code 0AM, and the later one received the code 0CW. The largest update took place in 2011: a new type of clutch, modified mechatronics, modified mechanical part. After this, the DQ200 became more reliable.
The second major update took place in 2013 (VAG officially announced this only in 2014). After him guarantee period again became standard (after 2012 to the beginning of 2014 the warranty was 5 years). Qty warranty claims decreased sharply.
DQ200 0AM assembled
Clutch
Mechatronics replacement
Broken fork bearing
Basic faults
Mechatronic
The main malfunctions of the DQ200 are: wear of the clutch, shift fork bearings and failure of the mechatronics (DSG electro-hydraulic unit). The clutch unit has been modernized for the 7th or 8th time, the average resource has increased and is close to 100 thousand km (VAG declares). At the same time, the death of mechatronics is, as always, unpredictable. Official dealer changes it completely, but the "Two Clutch" service does the repairs mechatronics dsg 7 0am significantly saving the owner’s banknotes. Both the electronic and hydraulic parts suffer.
In the mechanical part of the DQ200, the bearings most often worn out are the 6th and reverse (R) gear forks. The dealer orders the entire box assembled (as the manufacturer tells him - for vag it is not economically profitable). "Two Clutches" changes the forks (there are repair kits) - thereby making DSG repair 7 in this part is less expensive.
Clutch
The average clutch resource after modernization has increased and averages 70-90 thousand km. This is much higher than in the late 2000s. With careful operation, the resource often goes beyond 120-150 thousand km. Those who fail first are those who love chip tuning coupled with vigorous starts from traffic lights. The DQ200 is rated at only 250 N/m.
Service
The manufacturer (Luk) does not regulate the replacement of oil in the mechanical part of the DQ200 - it is declared that it is filled for the entire service life. However, once every 60 thousand km it is worth changing it, at least the life of the bearings on the gear shift forks will be extended. You should also change the oil in the mechatronics (to long runs). No filter provided.
The reliability of the DSG7 DQ200 has been enhanced by new software versions. The most latest versions designed for smooth starts from traffic lights to preserve clutch. The car goes to full power, only in the case of complete closure of the clutch (the process has become smooth and delayed).
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The 6-speed DSG6 wet clutch appeared earlier than the DSG7 with dry clutch. The main changes to the DQ250 02E took place in 2009 and VAG successfully reported that there should be no problems with it at all. But birth diseases They still haven’t cured mechatronics. Then in 2013, BorgWarner partially changed the transmission housing so that it would not interfere with the removal of the suspension arm bolt, and also updated both filters (internal and external). Regularly upgrade the wet clutch and software(firmware).
DSG6 Assembled
Damage to fur. parts
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Repair mechatronics
Robots with wet clutch have many advantages over dry robots, but also have significant shortcomings. Eg, oil pump combines the clutch, mechatronics and gearbox mechanics - because of this, repairs, although they occur much later, are often more expensive due to the larger number of spare parts that need to be replaced.
Quite often, clutch wear products immediately enter the mechatronics and it begins to work incorrectly, thereby killing the clutch and some parts of the mechanical part of the robotic gearbox. BorgWarner's official requirement is to change the oil every 60 thousand km. We recommend doing this at 40 thousand km with a vigorous driving style.
Second typical disadvantage(as in classic automatic transmission with a torque converter) is the failure of the gearbox due to prolonged wheel slip (oil overheats). This is especially true for cars with chip tuning equipped with turbochargers (increased boost) - they usually have a reduced clutch life and damage in the mechanical part (gear teeth grind off and main couple, wear products immediately enter the mechatronics). Therefore, whenever possible, it is necessary to exclude intermittent operation from operation.
Despite modern design body Skoda Kodiak and its comfort for the driver, many are interested in the issue of the gearbox. Thanks to the right gearbox, driving becomes personalized for a specific driver. Some people like to start from a standstill and overtake, while others like to move smoothly in the flow.
The Skoda Kodiak box allows you to purchase the car of your dreams, because for now driving is the only pleasure completely under human control.
What gearbox is on the Skoda Kodiak?
Which box is better is a subjective question. Regardless of your preferences, everything will depend on the range from the manufacturer. It is he who has to make the most serious decisions. New Skoda Kodiak received the following types of gearboxes:
- Mechanical 6-speed gearbox.
- Automatic transmission: DSG-6, DQ250 and DSG-7, DQ500.
There are no revolutionary technologies here. Many will feel the old automatic and manual transmissions already familiar from other cars. The Skoda company is not trying to manufacture anything for one specific car.
All types of gearboxes are evenly distributed among their products. It turns out that drivers have the opportunity to change the look of the car, but at the same time leave almost the same driving experience.
It is believed that problems are multiplying - the automotive industry is acquiring a tendency of “stagnation”, when nothing is being developed for new generations.
Manual transmission Skoda Kodiak
Traditionally, the review begins with the manual transmission. It is standard in 6 steps. Drivers receive a familiar mechanism that is reliable and durable. Maintenance is much cheaper than a machine, which suits the average citizen of our country with a small income.
In addition to Skoda cars, you can find them in other branches of the manufacturer. There are also a number of cars belonging to the VAG group that use a similar manual transmission. The following giants should be included here: Audi, SEAT, Volkswagen. By replacing a crossover from one manufacturer to another, you can end up with familiar chassis with all the pros and cons.
You can find mechanics on the Skoda Kodiak by purchasing following models engines:
- 1.4 l per 125 l. With. – front-wheel drive;
- 1.4 l per 125 l. With. – all-wheel drive;
- 2.0 l per 150 l. With. – all-wheel drive.
There is plenty to choose from. If for 2.0 l engine manual transmission may seem like an excess, but it is definitely indispensable on the 1.4 liter version: you can squeeze out much more. Standard 123 l. With. Now they already look very doubtful.
There is enough power for city driving, but not enough on the highway or over rough terrain. The only thing that saves is the driver’s ability to properly control the gearbox, where potential is always hidden, which in skillful hands can easily be released.
Automatic transmission
Skoda Kodiak automatic transmission last years went through many modifications. Now the manufacturer has chosen a model with a wet clutch. The two robotic transmissions installed on the Skoda Kodiak can be called the best option at the moment for the crossover:
- DSG-6, DQ250.
- DSG-7, DQ500.
The DSG-6 gearbox is the most common among Skoda products. Many all-wheel drive versions are equipped with it. Volkswagen and SEAT also borrow similar technology. Regarding DSG-7, the situation is slightly different. The transverse arrangement is a priority here. Sports cars Audi was able to successfully combine the DQ500 with their engines.
By type of gearbox we will analyze where they are installed in Skoda line Kodiak:
- DSG-6: 1.4 gasoline engine from 150 l. With. – front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive;
- DSG-7: 2.0 petrol/diesel (150, 180, 190 hp) – front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive.
Given the complexity of the DSG-6 and DSG-7 designs, it is worth considering them in more detail. Many drivers encounter them for the first time. These CPs are considered the most advanced at the moment. Despite the efforts of the developers, it was not possible to get rid of a number of shortcomings.
DSG 7 Common problems with DSG-6 and DSG-7
Before starting to list the problems, let us note the advantages that are inherent in robotic transmissions installed on modern Skoda Kodiak:
- with analogues it takes much less time to accelerate from a standstill;
- save gasoline due to more coordinated operation of all elements of the mechanism;
- there is no noticeable line between gear shifts - the driver does not feel jerks;
- It is possible to switch to manual control.
If the driver does not pass all the required checks at the service station. DSG-6 and DSG-7 will require Special attention. You will have to spend money on ongoing adjustments, because otherwise you will expect losses from replacing expensive parts. Here is a list of shortcomings:
- The operation of the drum leads to the appearance of chips that are dangerous for all engine elements. So it contributes to the rapid contamination of filters. Sensors are also at risk. Their elements are extremely sensitive to heavy particles, which will simply destroy them.
- Mechatronics refers to the difficulty of setting up a computer to overload the drums. The consequence of this relationship is wear and tear on the electrical part of the machine and, accordingly, on the valves.
- A transmission with chips in it causes solenoids to fail. The VFS needs to be changed as often as possible along with the cooling selenoids. Service stations are becoming commonplace for owners of DSG-6 and DSG-7 gearboxes.
Conclusions regarding gearboxes on the Skoda Kodiak
You can hold on to the time-tested manual transmission. KPs are inexorably switching to automatic operation. Robotic boxes DSG-6 and DSG-7 will still be among the winners. they want to be distracted by changing gears, and manufacturers generally strive to displace the driver’s main role in driving.
Yes, the DSG-6 and DSG-7 are not perfect, but they are already significantly better than their previous counterparts. Definitely worth giving them a chance.
On high level. If you are not worried about trips to the service station and the possibility of automatic transmission failure, then your choice is obvious, and let the manual transmission remain as a rarity on the corresponding cars of the past.
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