Fine edges: comparison of Renault Logan and Renault Sandero. Renault Simbol or Renault Logan – which is better? Advantages compared to its predecessor

The heroes of our article today will be cars belonging to different price categories, but very similar in appearance. We will compare Renault Logan and Kia Rio, and, finally, bring some clarity to the eternal debate between fans of each model.

The Rio small class model appeared for the first time on European market in 2000. Despite high competition, the Korean model immediately became one of the best-selling, not least because of its similarity with the beloved Subaru Impreza.

In 2005, Rio 2 was presented to the public, which received another best reviews critics, which had a positive impact on sales dynamics. The high popularity of Rio in Russia has led to the fact that since 2010 the small car has been assembled at Avtotor.

In 2011, Rio 3 debuted, which, according to experts, became the most reliable in the segment. Started in 2017 Kia sales Rio 4th generation.

The budget subcompact Logan has been delighting its fans since 2004. Manufacturers were given the task of building a car at a cost of 5 thousand euros, and the French succeeded, although they had to sacrifice something. By "something" we mean frankly weak system security.
The low cost of the model attracted the attention of Russian car enthusiasts, which is why.

In 2012, Logan 2, which received an improved exterior and interior, was presented to the public in the French capital. In 2016, a restyled modification of Logan went on sale.

What's better? If you look through the eyes of domestic car enthusiasts, then this is a French car.

Appearance

You may immediately get the impression that the models are similar in appearance, but upon detailed analysis it turns out that the exterior of each of them is designed completely differently. Rio's appearance looks very solid and pragmatic. While Logan looks more dynamic and youthful.

The windshields of both cars look exactly the same. The Rio is equipped with a smooth flowing hood, and the Logan has a more voluminous hood cover. On the nose of the Korean model you can see the signature radiator grille in the form tiger nose, and a pair of high-tech headlights. Logan can counter this with a bird-shaped false radiator and lights filled with LEDs and resembling wings.

The bottom of the Rio bumper is equipped with a trapezoidal air intake and rectangular fog lights. In the counterpart here you can see a perfectly composed element, consisting of components familiar to us.

The profile part of the cars is not much different. First of all, I would like to note that Rio has sharp stampings, which clearly contrasts with the smooth side surface of his opponent. One cannot help but pay attention to the sloping roof of both models, because of which, not least, both Rio and Logan can boast of phenomenal aerodynamics.

At the rear, the cars differ only in the shape of the bumper and lights. In everything else, parallels can be drawn.

What to choose - Renault Logan or Kia Rio? Most likely this is a French model.

Salon

When comparing interiors, the clear favorite in the confrontation is Logan. The fact is that Korean developers relied on traditionalism and pragmatism (one can immediately recall the features of the car’s exterior) and in this they made a mistake. This is not to say that the French did something incredible. They simply did everything at their usual high level, and this was enough to confidently beat their opponents.

The front panel of the cars is laid out very simply, and in each of them it is oriented relative to the driver's seat. Logan's central element is touch screen, around which everything else is centered. The Rio console has a more “democratic” design and all elements look more or less equal.

As for the gear shift lever, it is more convenient on the Rio. As for other things, you can see for yourself after a test drive. Steering wheel The Korean model is also more technologically advanced, and the credit for this lies in neat mini-button panels.

The front row of seats is better designed in Logan. Firstly, it is more ergonomic. Secondly, there is more space here. Rear passengers it is equally cramped no matter which car they are in. And nothing can be done about it - this is the specificity of the segment.

The quality of finishing materials is noticeably higher in a French car.

Specifications

For the most objective comparison, we chose modifications in sedan bodies produced in 2017. Each of them is equipped with a 1.6-liter gasoline engine and is based on a front-wheel drive platform.

Both Rio and Logan use manual transmission– 6 manual transmissions and 5 manual transmissions, respectively. Can boast of greater engine output korean car – 123/113 Horse power. This leads to the Rio unit producing more torque, which undoubtedly affects the dynamics. For example, the acceleration time to hundreds for the Korean model is 10.3 s, while that of its opponent is 10.7 s.

In terms of efficiency, the Korean car also looks the best - 6.4/ on average.

The Logan body is shorter than the Rio by 31 mm and taller by 47 mm. The wheelbase is noticeably longer for the “French” - 2634/2570 mm. The Rio has higher ground clearance – 160/155 mm. The weight indicators of both cars are almost the same - 1125/1126 kg in favor of Logan. The trunk capacity is 10 liters more in the Renault Logan - 510/500 liters.

Price

We have already mentioned that it is not even worth talking about equal prices. In reality, everything turned out as follows: average cost– 750 thousand rubles, and Rio – 650 thousand rubles. The data provided is for 2017 and current information may differ slightly. Experts agree that when choosing between these two cars, it is better to give preference to Logan - European quality is not an empty phrase. In any case, the choice is yours!

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Logan and Sandero from Renault are like two siblings. They are made on the same platform, but there is still a difference between them. Both models have both advantages and some disadvantages. How to decide which is better?

Appearance

Exterior design is the first thing you should pay attention to. It is in the body and exterior details that the main differences lie.

The stylish and dynamic Sandero hatchback looks a little better in appearance than its sedan counterpart. At least - old model, which looks somewhat utilitarian. It perfectly emphasizes its budget-oriented nature with uncomplicated flat surfaces and wide counters. Logan in the new body has more attractive features and is free from squareness and angularity.

Looking into the trunk, you will notice that the Sandero has it combined with passenger compartment and the volume is 320 liters versus 510 liters of Logan. However, if necessary, the volume luggage compartment hatchback can be easily increased to 1320 liters. With a sedan it’s not so simple, due to the design rear seats: They don't stack. If necessary, you can remove the backrest, but this will require a tool.

Both Renault models perfectly adapted to domestic roads. If we compare wheelbases, in the hatchback it is 45 mm shorter. Both cars are equipped with energy-intensive suspensions, ground clearance decent - 160 mm for Renault Logan, and even more for Sandero - 175 mm.
Despite the shorter body, the hatchback is several kilograms heavier than a sedan of similar configuration. This is due to the rigidity of the body.
Both cars have now undergone restyling and now there is a striking similarity between them. Distinctive feature is the form fog lights and luggage compartment.

Salon

Models vary in capacity. The hatchback is somewhat tighter, this is explained by the shorter wheelbase. The truth and possibilities for transforming the interior are greater.

The interior trim is two-tone plastic. For both models, it is mostly identical: the location of the power window keys (instrument console) and the horn button (at the end of the steering column lever) are similar. The focus is on practicality rather than style.

The dashboard, front seat door openings are all identical. There are a few minor differences. For example, Renault Logan has maximum configuration There is a flat eyeglass case on the ceiling; Sandero does not have this advantage.

The gearshift levers of both cars are smooth and easy to use.

The main differences in the interior are the design of the B-pillar. The height from head to ceiling in the new Sandero is smaller, which is explained by the more sloping roof and the width of the hatchback's interior. The rear of the sedan is much wider in the shoulder area, which allows three passengers to easily fit in the back seat. The conditions for positioning the legs are also better, since there is more space for these purposes - 2 cm. In the new hatchback, the back seat is noticeably tighter than in the sedan. Tall or bulky passengers will especially notice this.

In the new restyled models, the interior decoration, although it has undergone changes, becoming more attractive, still has similar features. More appeared additional features, including adjustment driver's seat and steering column, as well as heated mirrors.

Specifications

A common platform allows you to draw conclusions about the similarity chassis both cars.
If we characterize driving around the city, then there are not too many differences between these cars. Fuel consumption is quite low - within 7.7 liters per 100 kilometers. The same engines are installed on both models (volume 1.4 or 1.6). Therefore, they are also similar in power - 75 and 84 l/s, respectively. Technical stuffing simple. Engines are equipped cast iron blocks, timing belt drive and distributed injection.

Transmissions, both manual and automatic, are identical. On new cars with an automatic transmission, the thoughtfulness of the automatic transmission can eat up part of the 102 horsepower of the 16-valve engine.

According to technical data, maximum speed cars - 180 km/h. But after the mark of 120-130 km/h, low noise insulation makes itself felt.

Both cars are dynamic. They can handle a quick start and confident acceleration from idle. However, a comparison of characters will show that Logan is calmer, absolutely unambiguous and forgiving. This will be especially appreciated by novice drivers.

As for the restyled models: here the new Sandero is inferior to the new Logan in agility, but this is fully compensated by economic indicators.

Filling and price

Both cars are worthy of their price and are ideal for Russian road conditions.Thanks affordable price Renault Logan is one of the best-selling cars in Russia. New Renault Sandero slightly more expensive due to the smoothed out angular design.

Both Logan and Sandero have engine crankcase protection and a full-size spare wheel. There is one airbag - on the driver's side.

When on Russian market For the first time, a budget sedan appeared; it immediately gained enormous popularity among family people, who valued it for its large capacity and comfortable rear seat. However, not everyone liked the design of the car, and the practicality of such a body as a sedan left room for many questions. Therefore, in 2008 it was released hatchback Sandero, which was intended for a youth audience characterized by active behavior and high requirements for the convenience of a car. Since the machines are built on common platform It's not easy to say which is better - Logan or Sandero. However, we will try to find these fine lines by comparing two cars from Renault.

Appearance

If in the previous generation and classic Logan sedan were completely different from each other, now from the front the cars are very easy to confuse with each other. If we talk about the differences, then you need to look at the cars in profile. Renault designers decided to focus specifically on the similarity of the Sandero to a crossover, which they emphasized with massive rear pillars and original stampings extending from the handle back door to the edge of the lantern. In combination with the slight slope of the almost horizontal roof, these elements make the Renault Sandero more massive, despite the fact that in reality the car is shorter than the Logan and does not exceed it in height and width.

And here Renault sedan Logan doesn't look so solid. It also contains large rear pillars and stampings on the sides of the body, however, these design elements are lost against the backdrop of the massive trunk. I wonder what new sedan looks more ponderous than the previous generation Logan. This stylistic decision can be called controversial, since Renault car became more solid, but after the update appearance cannot be called particularly stylish and dynamic. Employees Renault achieved their goal - two cars built on a common platform look completely different.

From behind, the Renault Sandero does not look as distinctive as the previous generation car, since the massive vertical lights have given way to compact square-shaped lighting equipment. Now it resembles Suzuki, Toyota and even... Chery. Although overall it turned out very stylish - there is no hint of rounded shapes, which did not decorate the previous Sandero too much. Changes in Logan compared to previous generation very little - the lights received separate segments, and the bumper increased in length. However, the Renault sedan remains completely recognizable due to the raised edge of the trunk and sloping pillars.

Specifications
Car model:Renault SanderoRenault Logan
Manufacturer country:Romania (Assembly - Russia)Romania (Assembly - Russia)
Body type:HatchbackSedan
Number of places:5 5
Number of doors:5 4
Engine capacity, cc:1598 1598
Power, l. s./about. min:102/5750 105/5750
Maximum speed, km/h:180 180
Acceleration to 100 km/h, s:10,5 10,5
Type of drive:FrontFront
Checkpoint:5 manual transmission5 manual transmission
Fuel type:gasoline AI-95gasoline AI-95
Consumption per 100 km:In the city 9.4 / Outside the city 5.8
Length, mm:4080 4346
Width, mm:1757 1733
Height, mm:1523 1517
Ground clearance, mm:155 155
Tire size:185/65 R15185/65 R15
Curb weight, kg:1104 1127
Total weight, kg:1560 1545
Fuel tank volume:50 50

Inner space

If you compare Renault Sandero and Logan in similar trim levels, you won’t be able to find any significant differences in interior design. However, it is worth paying close attention to the rear seats. In Logan they provide a little more space for tall people due to the increased distance between the two rows seats. However, Sandero wins in terms of interior width - three adults can sit here, as they say, with their shoulders back. Although the ceiling height in the hatchback is lower, the loss in front of the Logan is explained by the slight slope of the roof, which gives the car a .

Now it’s worth talking about the main difference, which is represented by car trunks. With the rear seats folded down, the cargo space of the Renault Sandero is only 320 liters - although this figure is quite good for its class, you can’t carry a lot of things in such a car. However, it’s worth folding out the rear sofa completely, and a space of just over 1.2 cubic meters becomes available to the car owner. The seat transformation mechanism in Sandero works incredibly simply - to use it you don’t need to make any effort or look for hidden hinges - just pull the lever located right in the upper part of the backrest. The trunk has a convenient removable shelf that can hold up to 25 kilograms, as well as full upholstery of the fifth door and a handle for closing it.

Compared to Sandero, Logan does not look like a champion in practicality. Compact sedan Renault has a trunk volume of 500 liters. It is convenient to use due to the wide opening and low loading height, but Logan has much fewer transformation options. Of course, the rear seats also fold forward, but the volume is less than doubled - to about 820 liters, if you take into account loading things up to window level. In addition, the powerful body reinforcement of the Renault Logan makes the opening between the passenger compartment and the trunk very small, and does not allow the transportation of such large items as plasma TVs. Unambiguous minus Logan It is also worth mentioning the complete lack of trim on the trunk lid - not only is there no handle, but even basic plastic or fabric upholstery.

Dynamics

It may seem that comparing two cars equipped with the same engines and chassis components would be useless. However, such an assumption will be completely incorrect - after all, the distribution of weight along the axles of the Sandero is different, which cannot but affect the handling of the hatchback. Less loaded rear end Sandero may seem overly rigid to a single passenger, but once two or three people sit in the car, the expected smooth ride familiar to Logan is achieved. If you look at the situation from the driver’s side, the hatchback from Renault reacts more sharply to steering wheel turns and provides better feedback. But this has advantages back side- when driving over small bumps, it fluctuates much more than on a sedan.

Logan is uncompromisingly comfortable - even when the car is solely the driver, it is not perceived as rigid. Suspension of all four wheels works excellently when passing uneven surfaces without creating strong shocks. Renault Logan also moves more confidently - even large potholes and other road obstacles cannot deviate it from the driver’s chosen course. But this feature can also find its downside - too much soft suspension makes you turn the steering wheel a little earlier to choose the desired trajectory. Accordingly, Renault Logan is perceived as a car for a calm and leisurely person who values ​​comfort above all else.

One can argue about the slowness, since when equipped with the same Renault engines The Sandero can't outpace the sedan. Both cars accelerate to 60 mph in approximately 10.5 seconds and stop at 180 km/h. Sandero and Renault Logan also have a similar problem. high consumption fuel, which reaches 10 liters when driving within the city. You can get rid of it only in one case - by choosing a car equipped diesel engine, however, such modifications are not offered.

Minor differences

Although the cars are built on the same platform, many differences can be found between them. Among the most important Renault Sandero it is worth mentioning:

  • Large volume luggage compartment when transforming the interior;
  • Good finishing of the fifth door and the presence of a comfortable handle that allows you to avoid getting your hands dirty;
  • Convenient folding mechanism for the rear sofa;
  • Large interior width;
  • Acute reactions to turning the steering wheel;

But Logan wins over the comfort of its chassis and consistency of character, regardless of the degree of load on the car. Therefore, it will appeal to older people who want a simple and comfortable car, capable of quickly moving them between two points. If we talk about Renault Sandero, then target audience of this car are young people who want to see in a car a combination of comfort, the ability to transport large items for apartment renovation and good handling.

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A car that rightfully and deservedly deserves the title of a workhorse. An unpretentious and highly sought-after worker among taxi drivers and cab drivers, the French small car Renault Logan. There are millions of legends and rumors about its reliability, while the number of cars sold in Russia has long exceeded 500 thousand units. People's love for this car did not appear out of the blue; consumers carefully looked at the angular car for some time, and only after that sales beat all forecasts.

To date, the second generation of Renault Logan has already been presented. The manufacturer has made the car larger in size; outwardly it looks more bloated and aggressive.

As for the interior decoration, as before, everything is quite modest, fabric seat trim, hard plastic with a characteristic smell.

What motorists say about the second generation

First of all, owners of new Logans note more high level sound insulation than in its predecessor. It really became quieter in the car, and engine performance improved. idle speed almost inaudible.

The center console has found modern look and functionality, everything is at hand and at the same time succinctly simple. Driver's seats and front passenger, have changed somewhat in design, sitting in them has become much more comfortable even on long trips.

What disadvantages do the owners of the new series note?

- fabric seat upholstery has very poor wear resistance. The material quickly gets dirty and rubbed. Experienced drivers They recommend that owners immediately buy seat covers to avoid these problems.

- poor handling on the highway. Many drivers who managed to operate both generations of this car, confidently declare that the second family behaves worse on a suburban highway. The essence of the problem is that at speeds above 100 km/h the car begins to “scour” in the traffic, and a sharp side wind pushes it to the side.

- weak dynamics. The weight of the car has increased by almost 200 kilograms compared to the first generation, hence the dips in traction at speeds of 80-120 km/h. Moreover, the owners of cars of the second family assure that if you press harder on the accelerator pedal, fuel consumption can increase to a fabulous 12-14 liters per 100 km. And this includes 95 and 98 gasoline according to the passport.


Advantages compared to its predecessor

1. Appearance car.

Good designers clearly worked on the body of the Frenchman, despite the fact that it is an economy class, the car looks much more expensive than it actually is.

2. Soft suspension.

The ground clearance of both generations remained unchanged and is 155 millimeters, which is not bad for domestic conditions. But as for the energy intensity of the suspension, the engineers clearly emphasized softness and comfort on uneven road surfaces. Its moves almost doubled compared to younger brother. Now the passage of speed bumps and small potholes remains practically invisible to passengers.

3. Better visibility.

The driving position has become truly higher and more upright, to some extent it can be compared to jeeps. The mirrors acquired a larger area and added visibility.

4. Excellent heating and ventilation of the cabin.

Compared to the first family, the heating system has undergone global changes. Now the cabin has become much warmer in winter, and the air distribution is much more even than before.

Regarding quality and resource

The durability and reliability of the Renault Logan family of cars is their calling card. The automaker initially focuses on simplicity of design, ease of repair and availability of spare parts. And the level of comfort, of course, does not come first here, despite the fact that the cost new Logan on par with cars such as Hyundai Solaris, Lada Vesta, Kia Rio, etc., which are much more convenient than the Frenchman.

Analyzing reviews from owners and specialists of technical centers, we can say with confidence that average resource Renault engine Logan before the overhaul, is approximately 450-500 thousand kilometers. The value is average and can change, both up and down, depending on the quality of service, driving style and other factors.

The Russian car market has many brands and models various cars. But the most popular segment is budget cars. There are also many players in it, but there are also leaders. Today we will analyze one of them and compare two creations of this manufacturer at once. So, which is better: Renault Logan or Renault Sandero? These cars are noticeably different, but we are comparing them for the reason that many car enthusiasts consider these two models before purchasing.

Which is better: Renault Logan or Renault Sandero

It is clear that there is no direct answer to the question posed and simply cannot be. For every car enthusiast, each model has both pros and cons.

The most common Logan on our roads has a 1.4-liter engine under the hood, which is paired with a manual gearbox. If we talk about the equipment of this car, then there is usually a simple climate control, a classic ABS system and two airbags.

Renault Sandero usually has an engine with a displacement of 1.6 liters; the transmission on this car is often automatic. If we talk about the off-road modification Sandero Stepway, then it is even more serious. But if you compare Logan and Sandero, then with all the similar equipment they will cost approximately the same (maybe Sandero will be ten to twenty thousand more expensive).

Trunk

Which is better: Renault Logan or Renault Sandero, if you compare luggage compartments? In general, the Renault Logan has a trunk with a volume of about five hundred liters, while the Sandero has a trunk of a modest three hundred liters and a little.

But it's not that simple. The Sandero hatchback has the ability to quickly and easily increase the volume of the luggage compartment by folding the seat backs back row. This manipulation increases the volume approximately four times. In Logan, the trunk can be increased if the row is completely dismantled rear seats, since their backs do not fold. To carry out this operation you will need special tools: in addition to the seats themselves, you will also need to remove the metal cross members of the rear row of seats.

If we compare the trunk closing system on these two cars, it is better implemented on the Renault Sandero. Its handle for closing the trunk door has a plastic lining, while the Logan has cargo compartment closed by hand. In this case, you have to touch bare metal, which also has a sharp edge. IN luggage department The Logan has a full-size wheel, while the Sandero has it outside, under the bottom.

Interior equipment and interior

"Renault-Logan" or "Sandero-Stepway": which is better if we compare interior decoration? It's difficult to say, since these are cars from the same manufacturer and both are from budget segment. To be honest, there is nothing interesting or attractive to the eye inside them. These are working machines that transport a person from one point to another. Inside, everything is modest and ordinary in both cars. The plastic is not the same High Quality, there is no escape from squeaks and other things.

To be fair, let’s say that despite the fact that these cars are unremarkable inside, their interior cannot be called unsuccessful or outdated. It's budget, not bad. These are different things. Besides, everything is learned by comparison, and everyone has their own taste for such things.

Comparison of standard motors

What is better to choose from Renault: Logan or Sandero, if the question concerns the engine? All power plants Both Logan and Sandero have been tested by buyers for a long time. This is encouraging, since there are no more frankly “childhood diseases” anymore. And the weakest basic 1.4-liter engine and a 16-valve engine with a volume of 1.6 liters work easily and without harm to themselves. Russian gasoline AI-92.

If we talk about the 1.4-liter engine, which is most often installed in the Logan, then it is quite peppy when you are alone in the car, and if you have passengers, then its agility immediately disappears into emptiness. With passengers you will have to prepare for overtaking on the highway almost a kilometer away.

If you are driving with a family, then look towards an engine with a volume of 1.6 liters (at least an engine with 8 valves and a power of 84 horsepower). This motor is more expensive, but it is more powerful and pulls better. On the move, a Renault Sandero with a 16-valve engine will not give any chance to a Logan with a 75 horsepower engine.

Suspension

The Sandero with a sixteen-valve engine turned out to be faster and noticeably stiffer on the move than the Logan with a 1.4 engine. But the excellent energy intensity of the Sandero suspension still remains the same. The suspension of both cars responds loudly in the cabin, and the sound insulation is also very poor. Renault Logan is 23 centimeters longer than Sandero. In theory long cars noticeably softer, but in Logan the increase in length is realized not by lengthening the base, but only by the rear overhang.

The suspensions of both cars can be called harsh. This is a tribute to their “budgetism”. Not too much expensive cars There are no very soft pendants. Yes, undoubtedly, a soft suspension lasts longer and is more difficult to “kill”, but both “Logan” and “Sandero” have fairly durable suspensions without any overt weak points and “childhood illnesses”. Nevertheless, the manufacturer has focused on these cars for our roads, which are far from ideal. This moment cannot but rejoice.

"Automatic" or "mechanical"?

Let's compare Renault Logan and Renault Sandero by analyzing their gearboxes. If having an automatic transmission is important to you, then without question, consider models with a sixteen-valve engine with a volume of 1.6 liters. But this is not the answer to the question of which Renault is better to choose: Logan or Sandero. This question is your own business.

By the way, it must be said that both the manual gearbox and automatic transmission are characterized by sufficient reliability. You need to choose a gearbox based on personal preferences; you shouldn’t look for any trick from the manufacturer in this unit, because there simply isn’t one.

Body

What is better to choose: Renault Logan or Renault Sandero? Which model has the better body? They are approximately the same in terms of ergonomics (although it’s just a disaster), the quality of the metal is similar, the quality of the metallic paint is also the same. If something starts to rust, it is better to solve the problem immediately and not start it. The same applies to chips; they are quickly seized by rust. Gaps between body elements they look acceptable, everything looks smooth.

Some body spare parts can be easily found both new and at car “showdowns”, due to the fact that cars are not rare. Most body parts are inexpensive, especially secondary market.

Optics

There is little point in talking about the design of the optics, since these are cars from the budget segment and the main thing here is functionality, not beauty. The headlights are well designed on both cars. The light from the headlights is quite enough for a trip at any time of the year or day. It is gratifying that the lamps used in headlights do not cost a fortune. It is impossible to single out any weak points regarding optics. Everything is not fancy, but at a sufficient level.

Of course, there is not as much light as from modern LED headlights or headlights with but agree that the price for optics is appropriate. This budget class, and the fact that the manufacturer has awarded the cars with acceptable optics should rather please than cause envy over the headlights of cars from the premium segments.

Sales

In question Renault sales Logan vs Renault Sandero the leader will be “Logan”, but is everything so objective? Logan is a favorite among taxi drivers. Low maintenance machine with spacious interior and trunk. With the Sandero, everything is not so clear; taxi drivers do not favor such body shapes.

Thus, it is easier to find a good copy of Sandero on the secondary market than a competitor in the form of Logan. After all, to be honest, no one would want to buy a car that had previously been mercilessly exploited by a taxi driver who loves to work and does not like to rest.