Lada Largus 16 valve engine. What motors are installed on Lada Largus: the volume, characteristics of models, pluses and cons. Principal distinctions of engines

AvtoVAZ a few years ago, set out the goal of creating a good car. Single workhorse for the people. Already then, the work of the Alliance Vase with Renault felt. Largus is a direct reflection of collaboration. Developed a car on the basis of Logan. The platform is so successful that the Duster crossover is produced on it, Sandero hatchback and a lot of Nissan car models.

Processing in Logan so that he become a Largus was a bit. Just recycled only the suspension, but a little changed the appearance.

Engines for Largus

Body body, but the car should drive something. The manufacturer did not invent the bike and installed on Logan's Largus:

  • K7M with 8 valves - 86 hp;
  • K4M with 16 valves - 105 hp

But, there are domestic development, the engine from Vesta - VAZ 11189. It is also put on Largus. In fact, this engine is from the grant, only converted under the norm euros 5.

We are interested in the last 2 engines: French on 16 valves and our, on 8 valves. It is interesting to know what reviews the car enthusiasts write on Largus with a vase engine. And of course, compare them with reviews on the 16 valve motor of foreign production.

Reviews

Alexander Tatishchev, Yaroslavl, a comparison of viburnum and Largus with a 16-valve motor

I was lucky to be the owner of 2- cars of our production: viburnum 2 with 8 valve engine and Largus with a new 16 valve motor. Well, as new - borrowed. Therefore, for interest, I decided to compare the 16 valve motor and Largus with the VAZ engine and write a review about your feelings.

For your information! A VAZ 11189 engine is installed on Kalina to 8 valves.

Kalina often drives me completely loaded, as the genus of my professional classes is a construction site. It happens that I have to carry halfolon. Duck Here's Kalina on the engine 11189 with 8 valves rather frisky. Even when the approach easily goes on overtaking. Our engineers built an excellent 8 valve engine, in my opinion.

Largus has a lifting capacity of more, but also the weight of the car is also more. I even made a small tuning, but does not help. The car does not ride stupidly, there is no superance even with the empty. Therefore, the K4M engine on Largus Largus with 16 valves deserves not the most meal reviews.

I'm seriously thinking about changing Largus to another car. You can even Kalina, only newer.

Ivan Kulb, Lada Kalina 2 with Motor VAZ 11189, Nizhny Novgorod

For the last 2 years I go to Kalina 2. I live in the countryside, therefore cargo I drive a lot, both domestic and work. In general, the car is always loaded. I have not experienced any problems during operation. Periodically, the truth was to regulate the valve in brand service. Well, the standard then. I rolled out for 2 years 20 thousand. I know that even when breaking 11189 with 8 valves, its repair will not be expensive. I use semi-synthetic oil. The neighbor is Lada Largus with the engine VAZ 11189 and his reviews are not so flattering. Somehow I gave me to drive on my car, empty. Duck at Largus is not at all the dynamics. I do not even know how people suffer such a stupid gas response. It may have been affected by the processing of a motor under the standard of Euro 5, but the car should not lose so much in the dynamics. It is good that the amount of repair if that will be the same. And what about 16 valve Largus? There, repairs in a penny will cost.

For your information! The simplicity of construction is the main distinguishing feature of the VAZ 11189 engine, compared with the 16 valve engine of foreign production. When breakdown, the last repair will be much expensive. True, the French engine is modern.

Nikolay Last, Lada Largus 1.6 (105 hp) 2014, Ulyanovsk

In principle, the car is not bad, quite spacious. But there is one unpleasant feature. Designers seemed to have conspited with oil workers, or engineers do not know how to make calculations! The fact is that fuel consumption is 6 liters. Per 100 km outside the city can be achieved only at a speed of 60 km / h. But will you have wishes to drag with such a fucking speed? We have killed roads, but not to the same degree. Such a consumption should be on this car only at 90 km / h. The manufacturer declares that the 16 valve engine is economical, but it goes wrong. I do not know which engine chip-tuning is needed Lada Largus to work on positive feedback. And the speaker is not like it. With the air conditioner enabled in the summer, the already not frisky car still loses in the dynamics. As for the standard speed of 90 km / h, then it has 8.5 liters on it. Not suitable!

For your information! The air conditioner compressor has a drive through a clutch from the engine and can eat part of its power, which leads to an increase in fuel consumption.

Alexander Soly, Lada Largus for 5 seats, 8-valve engine, Astrakhan

A new car is a good acquisition. Anything better should be an old foreign car. But after her, the native Lada lacks useful little things in the salon. Adapt to this. In principle, Largus is a good compromise between the cost and quality.

As for the revocation of the engine of Lada Largus VAZ 11189, it scares me a great fuel consumption. Data somewhat diverges with those that declares the manufacturer. At a speed of 130 km / h on the highway, there are already 10 liters per hundred. This is a bit too much. But I did not load the car under the eyebreaker. And what will be with full loading. To parts of the motor it is worth noting that 8 valve version is weak for Largus. You need a motor more powerful. But even 16 valve engines are not enough for a dynamic ride.

About the 5th step. They say they write that the engine is roar on it, and there is no speed. I have 3 thousand on the tachometer speed of 100 km / h. At 4 thousand - 120 km / h.

For your information! The manufacturer declares that on the highway in the VAZ 11189 engine with 8 valves, the flow rate should be slightly lower than 7 liters. In the city of 9-10 l. Well, the data somewhat diverges with reality.

Nikita Sbytsky, Lada Largus 2013, Motor - 16-valve, Arkhangelsk

When buying a car was afraid. Nevertheless, Zhiguli is bad fame. But the car has been served by faith and true construction matters for 2.5 years. Helps to carry loads and not lung. Under the string not loading, but not a ball machine.

16 K4M valve engine on my Lada Largus deserves a good review, since there was no breakdown during operation. I drove on it not so much - only 43 thousand km. Having read the stories about the timing belt is already preparing to change it. Still, I do not want to get on the costly repair of the valves because of his cliff. Well, everything is my manual. Even I pass the service slightly earlier, so that 2-3 thousand cars do not reach the time limit. So I warn her from breakdowns. Nevertheless I go not enough.

As for the dynamics, I'm used to. Although after a foreign car, the first time was not easy. But what to do - such a car created such a car. It remains only to use. He costs her money.

Ivan Richko, Lada Largus 2014, 16-valve motor, Novosibirsk

I have a car for 2 years. Companion? Domestic. There are shortcomings in many areas, but they are small, and somehow you used already. Sin the manufacturer's sinner, who offers a new car for the money, and also their own.

As for the dynamics of the 16 valve motor, then in the city traffic, it is enough for Largus. In principle, it is comfortable to go on the track, but up to 115 km / h. Want to go higher - you need to change the transfer ratio of the 5th transmission. The 92nd gasoline goes Largus with a bang, although the manual is written to use 95. But in the last many additives - I do not want to spoil the fuel system and better the injecting the nozzles. Once flooded in some silence of a bright 95, I don't want to remember it. I do not know how the motor endured. Probably the other would have already broken from such vibrations. In general, I cleaned the entire fuel system.

As for the advantages:

  • high maintainability;
  • the mass of spare parts and they are cheap;
  • reliable engine.

Disadvantages:

  • fuel consumption is higher than the manufacturer declares;
  • the noise of the motor is heard on medium and high revs.

In general, the consumption beats a little on the wallet, you get used to ergonomics, and the rest there are no complaints.

Mikhail Prokopiev, Largus 2012 with a 16-valve motor, Tambov

I was among the first buyers of Largus in the city. Chose the 16 valve version because it was necessary to have a powerful and reliable motor. I go a lot. I work in the forestry, so you have to overcome long distances.

The domestic car is not sorry to erased - it can always be fixed. This quality was moved to Largus. The engine is good, but not enough thrust on the track. Yes, and in the city weak. But there I rode rarely, so it can only seem to me invention. I read reviews - it does not seem.

The timing belt changed to 60 thousand. But noise was heard by 20 thousand. I do not know how I did not get on the valve repair. I was lucky, because I read it later.

Summing up

The presented reviews about the main Largus engines - the 8-valve VAZ 11189 and a foreign 16-valve, suggest that for full-fledged dynamics for the machine, a slightly more powerful motor is needed. Perhaps the engineers conceived a calm and obedient car, but in fact it was very sluggish.

On the weakness of motors, even the 16-valve version indicates the fact that they consume fuel just more than the stated. Almost everyone complains about it. For comparison, you can take Kalina 2 of the first revocation with the same 8-valve motor. According to the user, he goes confident and dynamically, which Largus is missing.

You can apply tuning to both engines, but these are additional costs. In addition, the warranty flies on the new car. It's easier to buy other cars and do not suffer. Although some like to pick up the gland. The 8-valve motor can be inflated from environmental control, and at the 16-valve, in general, wide possibilities of chip tuning, which allow you to raise power up to 150 liters. from.

A spacious wagon called Lada Largus - nothing else like a modified Dacia Logan MCV model. The company Renault in his universal offered different engines - from 1,4-liter to 1.6-liter 8 and 16-valve engine. On Largus, two of them were originally available. We are talking about Motors K7M and K4M, and the volume of each was 1.6 liters. What engine put on Largus in Lada now, you can learn from the text. Let's just say that the 8-valve K7M has received a replacement, and the licensee of DVS K4M was adjusted on AvtoVAZ.

Largus with the 8-valve "11189" are already available. Proof is on video.

Only facts (compression ratio, specifications)

The 16-valve gasoline engine Renault exists in several versions. The last one, the most modern, meets the norms of Euro-5. It is interesting here that the compression ratio in the 16-valve Renault is 9.8. Remember this figure? And now - see: in the 8-valve motor VAZ, this indicator is 10.5!

All DVS VAZ, January 2016

It turns out, VAZ motor, as it has a compression ratio - more.

Both engines that were discussed are manufactured by the VAZ plant. And they both comply with Euro-5 standards. The working volume is also the same, 1.6 liters. And the number of valves is distinguished:

  • K4M - 16 cl., 102 hp;
  • 11189 - 8 cl., 87 hp

By the way, the engine 11189 looks better than his predecessor: it was Euro-4 - it became Euro-5, it was 84 "forces" - it became 87! Only here the compression ratio of the K7M motor was 9.5. He was "omnivore".

Lada Largus Engine Intervals

All Largus motors are equal to reliability: the valves will be cut during the timing belt break. Replacing the timing belt on the Motor K4M is needed once every 120 thousand, on its "competitor" - every 75 thousand km. Not impressive. But how is everything with the replacement of oil:

  • K4M - 15000 km + filter replacement;
  • 11189 - the same.

By the way, it was necessary to change the timetable for Renault Renault Renault Renault strap every 60000 km. But, as they say, it is written in pen - do not cut off with an ax. See what "writes" VAZ.

120 thousand? Do they seriously ??

When the timing belt breaks during the service interval, the responsibility goes to the owner. Require a replacement for Renault Regulations, not VAZ.

Motor 16 valves - for those who are ready to pay more

It turns out that the timing belt on the 16-valve is better to change more often than the VAZ indicates the regulations. And on the other hand, the belt can well live up to 120 thousand. But still, if you do not want to risk, reduce the service interval twice. Together with the belt, it will be better to replace two rollers, stretching and guide.

Setting the timing belt tension

By itself, the station wagon Largus is not a budget model. And not at all budget, there will be a configuration with a "16-valve".

Torque of both engines (comparison)

Let's try to answer the question of which engine in Lada Largus is the most tragment. Find the answer will be easy if you analyze the torque graph.

The paradox turns out again:

  • At the "idle" force equals 100 N * m;
  • Next, both graphics are growing linear. However, the Motor Renault turns out to be more travelers, since on 2000 rpm it develops 135 N * m, and not 130, as the VAZ engine. Alas and ah.

Everyone got used to the fact that the 8-valve should "pull" must "pull" at low revs. Perhaps everything will be so, if you do not compare the motors of two different firms. Make conclusions.

Those who intend to buy the engine model K4M - be sure to read!

Know that any 16-valve motor is very sensitive to the choice and quality of oils. The engine in Largus at the factory is refueling with imported material:

  • Shell PC 1448, 0W30
  • ELF Solaris RNX, 5W30

At one time, Lukoil Genesis RN oil was used, the viscosity of which corresponds to the class 5W40. More we already wrote here.

The fact that "they" goes as "5W30", we have called "5W40".

To the oil filter, if we talk about 16 valves, also presented strict requirements. And with an 8-valve, everything looks easier: the choice of oils has 20 options, and the filter can be changed "once" (but this is already against the regulations).

Two features of the engine Renault

The reader could notice that in and in it it is necessary to pour low-temperature oil: 0W is for temperatures "lower than minus 35". The bottom line is that with the winter starting the engine really have problems. But it also has a phase management to provide better traction on the nizakh.

Gear-phase management in two-channel DVS Reno

On the VAZ-11189 engines, the phase adjustment system is missing.

For Universal Largus, the K4M engine was finalized: the phase management was replaced by a conventional gear. Know about it!

Hydraulic compensators installed on valve pushers make the operation of the K4M motor. In general, the combination of "cast-iron block + hydrokompensers" is characterized by speeds for limousines. So consider that Largus with 16 valves is a limousine. Requiring attention, quality service and expensive materials.

Kit "Hydrakov" for K4M

Official numbers

AvtoVAZ does not exclude that its 89th engine will "feed" the 92nd gasoline. This option is allowed officially.But for the K4M motor, only gasoline AI-95 is suitable, also A-95 or better.

High-speed characteristics:

  • 8-CL: 14.2 s, 158 km / h
  • 16-CL: 13.1 s, 165 km / h

Here is the time of overclocking from zero to 100 km / h.

In general, Largus with an 8-valve is a family car that is not intended for high-speed trips. Overclocking "from scratch" on it is very tight, but this is due to an overestimated gear ratio. Thanks to him, about 130 km / h, the dynamics disappears at all.

The company VAZ promises us better economy with the K4M motor, and not from 11189. The figures are not different, but they are in the area of \u200b\u200b8 liters per hundred.

Video with overclocking "from 0 to 100" on 16 valves

For Russia, a large advantage of such engines is that they are very undemanding for fuel. Of course, it is not necessary to refuel in dubious places all the time, but from several times the use of low-quality fuel the unit will not give failures.

Sixteenth Flipped K4M


This engine with a power of 105 liters. from. Install on seminal universals and used in the luxury configuration. It has significant differences, from his fellow with eight valves:

  • fuel consumption in mixed mode - about 9 liters per 100 kilometers;
  • quiet work;
  • lack of vibration.

If you think what unit for Largus is better, it is worth carefully considering the option with sixteen valves. It is more complicated, therefore the cost of a car equipped with such a motor will be slightly higher. Maintenance of the sixteenth glove engine will also take you a lot of money, but you can easily drive over 450 thousand kilometers on it. It is only important to care for him, listen to the advice of experts to a hundred, on time to change components and not to give too high load.

Disadvantages K4M:

  • skipping turns when using low-quality fuel;
  • insufficient dynamics;
  • expensive spare parts;
  • high service prices in service centers.

If you compare two engines, then it is undoubtedly more profitable, since it does not require frequent valve settings. Its disadvantages are not so significant as the eight-glove K7M.

Which unit is better to choose

If you want to buy Largus, it is worth buying a package of a suite or seven-door model, since in this case you will stand under the hood you will stand a more reliable and modern model of the engine with sixteen valves. This is a more practical option suitable for both a trip to metropolis with a large number of traffic jams and for movement along the track.

These engines are manufactured by K4M in Russia (Marking P) and in Spain (marked with the letter D in the serial number). Despite the large number of jokes, about the domestic auto industry, the quality of assembly of the Russian aggregate is not inferior to Spanish. Changes in the production line led to the fact that the motors released from the domestic conveyor are absolutely suitable for world standards. This noted Francois Stuzon, who is the head of the company "Power units".

Largus with a sixteenth glove engine successfully overcame the test drive. The only nuance was the use of a car in the summer when the motor can withstand the load from the air conditioner turned on. On low revs, the car comes with some effort, while when overclocking over 90 kilometers per hour, this drawback ceases to be felt.

Lada Largus models can be equipped with two types of engine - with 8 or 16 valves. From what motor you will prefer to have under the hood of your new car depends on its final price and equipment. We will understand in the advantages and disadvantages of each option.

general information

For the first time, the Universal Lada Largus was available in 2012. It is produced in two versions - for the transport of passengers or goods. Car lubers are more interesting than the passenger variant, which, according to the manufacturer, can accommodate 5 or 7 people. When developing this model, special attention was paid to such characteristics as:

  • speed;
  • comfort driver and passengers;
  • smooth stroke.

The engines for this car were made by the Renault concern, each of them is designed to use in the Russian climate. Any engine mounted on a Lada Largus car can be used in conditions:

  • winter;
  • off-road;
  • sharp fluctuations in temperatures.

Similar motors are installed on adapted Renault and Nissan models. Regardless of the valve system, the engine in Lada has a volume of 1.6 liters and a fuel injection system controlled by electronics. Motors are working in a pair with a manual transmission, as the automatic transmission producer decided to Largus on Lada not to use.

Another feature from the domestic producer was the use of only gasoline aggregates operating on the AI-95 brand. Avtovaz experts explained that despite the lower cost of diesel fuel, the assembly and maintenance of diesel engines will cost more. Minor savings on fuel are not beneficial to manufacturers or consumers. In terms of environmental friendliness, co-production with Renault Nissan allowed Largus to check for compliance with the Euro-4 standard.

For any engine of this car, the manufacturer has a resource of 160 thousand kilometers. After this mark, you may need a major overhaul, but with proper care, Lada Largus can easily travel much longer without stopping. Moreover, other digits indicate in passports for each engine.

Eight-chamber K7M 800.

This engine model Lada Largus borrowed Renault Logan and Sandero. They are absolutely identical. For the first time, this unit began to establish on the above foreign cars in 2010, then he was a little more powerful, but due to the certification according to the Euro-4 standard, its design was revised. The engine lost three horsepower, and its power began to be 83.

The positive torque in the eight-glove unit is that its resource, according to the manufacturer (Renault), is more than 400 thousand kilometers. The disadvantages of this motor can be noted on the basis of the experience of using it not only by Lada Largus, but also on Logan:

  • at idle turns are not constant, floating;
  • fuel consumption remained as long as high;
  • there are no valve hydraulic components, as a result of which their adjustment is needed every 30,000 mileage kilometers;
  • it is recommended to change the timing belt every 60,000 kilometers, since the lids valves are bent;
  • the seals of the crankshaft often flow;
  • high noise and vibration when working.

Lada Largus is a sufficiently heavy car, and the eight-flaped unit does not always "pull." This disadvantage noted by no other motorist. It is most difficult to use this engine when moving in the courtyards. The lack of capacity is clearly noticeable at the beginning of the movement.

READ ALSO: Technical characteristics of Lada Largus Cross 4x4

For Russia, a large advantage of such engines is that they are very undemanding for fuel. Of course, it is not necessary to refuel in dubious places all the time, but from several times the use of low-quality fuel the unit will not give failures.

Sixteenth Flipped K4M

This engine with a power of 105 liters. from. Install on seminal universals and used in the luxury configuration. It has significant differences, from his fellow with eight valves:

  • fuel consumption in mixed mode - about 9 liters per 100 kilometers;
  • quiet work;
  • lack of vibration.

If you think what unit for Largus is better, it is worth carefully considering the option with sixteen valves. It is more complicated, therefore the cost of a car equipped with such a motor will be slightly higher. Maintenance of the sixteenth glove engine will also take you a lot of money, but you can easily drive over 450 thousand kilometers on it. It is only important to care for him, listen to the advice of experts to a hundred, on time to change components and not to give too high load.

Disadvantages K4M:

  • skipping turns when using low-quality fuel;
  • insufficient dynamics;
  • expensive spare parts;
  • high service prices in service centers.

If you compare two engines, then it is undoubtedly more profitable, since it does not require frequent valve settings. Its disadvantages are not so significant as the eight-glove K7M.

Which unit is better to choose

If you want to buy Largus, it is worth buying a package of a suite or seven-door model, since in this case you will stand under the hood you will stand a more reliable and modern model of the engine with sixteen valves. This is a more practical option suitable for both a trip to metropolis with a large number of traffic jams and for movement along the track.

These engines are manufactured by K4M in Russia (Marking P) and in Spain (marked with the letter D in the serial number). Despite the large number of jokes, about the domestic auto industry, the quality of assembly of the Russian aggregate is not inferior to Spanish. Changes in the production line led to the fact that the motors released from the domestic conveyor are absolutely suitable for world standards. This noted Francois Stuzon, who is the head of the company "Power units".

Largus with a sixteenth glove engine successfully overcame the test drive. The only nuance was the use of a car in the summer when the motor can withstand the load from the air conditioner turned on. On low revs, the car comes with some effort, while when overclocking over 90 kilometers per hour, this drawback ceases to be felt.

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What engine stands on Lada Largus: volume, models, resource

A spacious wagon called Lada Largus - nothing else like a modified Dacia Logan MCV model. The company Renault in his universal offered different engines - from 1,4-liter to 1.6-liter 8 and 16-valve engine. On Largus, two of them were originally available. We are talking about Motors K7M and K4M, and the volume of each was 1.6 liters. What engine put on Largus in Lada now, you can learn from the text. Let's just say that the 8-valve K7M has received a replacement, and the licensee of DVS K4M was adjusted on AvtoVAZ.

Largus with the 8-valve "11189" are already available. Proof is on video.

Only facts (compression ratio, specifications)

The 16-valve gasoline engine Renault exists in several versions. The last one, the most modern, meets the norms of Euro-5. It is interesting here that the compression ratio in the 16-valve Renault is 9.8. Remember this figure? And now - see: in the 8-valve motor VAZ, this indicator is 10.5!


All DVS VAZ, January 2016

It turns out, the VAZ motor is needed better gasoline, since it is more compression.

Both engines that were discussed are manufactured by the VAZ plant. And they both comply with Euro-5 standards. The working volume is also the same, 1.6 liters. And the number of valves is distinguished:

  • K4M - 16 cl., 102 hp;
  • 11189 - 8 cl., 87 hp

By the way, the engine 11189 looks better than his predecessor: it was Euro-4 - it became Euro-5, it was 84 "forces" - it became 87! Only here the compression ratio of the K7M motor was 9.5. He was "omnivore."

Lada Largus Engine Intervals

All Largus motors are equal to reliability: the valves will be cut during the timing belt break. Replacing the timing belt on the Motor K4M is needed once every 120 thousand, on its "competitor" - every 75 thousand km. Not impressive. But how is everything with the replacement of oil:

  • K4M - 15000 km + filter replacement;
  • 11189 - the same.

By the way, it was necessary to change the timetable for Renault Renault Renault Renault strap every 60000 km. But, as they say, it is written in pen - do not cut off with an ax. See what "writes" VAZ.


120 thousand? Do they seriously ??

When the timing belt breaks during the service interval, the responsibility goes to the owner. Require a replacement for Renault Regulations, not VAZ.

Motor 16 valves - for those who are ready to pay more

It turns out that the timing belt on the 16-valve is better to change more often than the VAZ indicates the regulations. And on the other hand, the belt can well live up to 120 thousand. But still, if you do not want to risk, reduce the service interval twice. Together with the belt, it will be better to replace two rollers, stretching and guide.


Setting the timing belt tension

By itself, the station wagon Largus is not a budget model. And not at all budget, there will be a configuration with a "16-valve".

Torque of both engines (comparison)

Let's try to answer the question of which engine in Lada Largus is the most tragment. Find the answer will be easy if you analyze the torque graph.

K4M, 16 valves, 1.6 l

VAZ-11189, 8 valves, 1.6 l

The paradox turns out again:

  • At the "idle" force equals 100 N * m;
  • Next, both graphics are growing linear. However, the Motor Renault turns out to be more travelers, since on 2000 rpm it develops 135 N * m, and not 130, as the VAZ engine. Alas and ah.

Everyone got used to the fact that the 8-valve should "pull" must "pull" at low revs. Perhaps everything will be so, if you do not compare the motors of two different firms. Make conclusions.

Those who intend to buy the engine model K4M - be sure to read!

Know that any 16-valve motor is very sensitive to the choice and quality of oils. The engine in Largus at the factory is refueling with imported material:

  • Shell PC 1448, 0W30
  • ELF Solaris RNX, 5W30

At one time, Lukoil Genesis RN oil was used, the viscosity of which corresponds to the class 5W40. More about choosing an oil on a 16-valve engine, we have already written here.

The fact that "they" goes as "5W30", we have called "5W40".

To the oil filter, if we talk about 16 valves, also presented strict requirements. And with an 8-valve, everything looks easier: the choice of oils has 20 options, and the filter can be changed "once" (but this is already against the regulations).

Two features of the engine Renault

The reader could notice that the K4M motors require more oil and it is necessary to pour low-temperature oil: 0W is for temperatures "lower than minus 35". The bottom line is that with the winter starting the engine really have problems. But it also has a phase management to provide better traction on the nizakh.


Gear-phase management in two-channel DVS Reno

On the VAZ-11189 engines, the phase adjustment system is missing.

For Universal Largus, the K4M engine was finalized: the phase management was replaced by a conventional gear. Know about it!

Hydraulic compensators installed on valve pushers make the operation of the K4M motor. In general, the combination of "cast-iron block + hydrokompensers" is characterized by speeds for limousines. So consider that Largus with 16 valves is a limousine. Requiring attention, quality service and expensive materials.


Kit "Hydrakov" for K4M

Official numbers

AvtoVAZ does not exclude that its 89th engine will "feed" the 92nd gasoline. This option is allowed officially. But for the K4M motor, only gasoline AI-95 is suitable, also A-95 or better.

High-speed characteristics:

  • 8-CL: 14.2 s, 158 km / h
  • 16-CL: 13.1 s, 165 km / h

Here is the time of overclocking from zero to 100 km / h.

Know that different engines on the Largus are completed with different boxes. In the first case (8 cl.) The gear ratio of the main pair is 4.5. In the second - 4.2! On the replacement of oils in them, we have already written here.

In general, Largus with an 8-valve is a family car that is not intended for high-speed trips. Overclocking "from scratch" on it is very tight, but this is due to an overestimated gear ratio. Thanks to him, about 130 km / h, the dynamics disappears at all.

The company VAZ promises us better economy with the K4M motor, and not from 11189. The figures are not different, but they are in the area of \u200b\u200b8 liters per hundred.

Video with overclocking "from 0 to 100" on 16 valves

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Largusology - Autorev

On the wagist of Lada Largus with the Renault K4m motor I go for the third year. And recently introduced AvtoVAZ on Largus engines of their own design, with an index of 11189. How was it not to compare such with mine? I compared.

Motor VAZ-11189 is known for a long time, they are pronounced Kalina and grant. No technical delights, two valves per cylinder - simplicity itself. As a result, he is spacious under the hood; Nevertheless, the introduction led to the reproduction of the engine compartment. The air filter, unified with the West, demanded the transfer of the expansion tank to the right side member, and the tank itself is applied from the XRAY model. Unknown Glory Detail: on our resource tests, such a constantly burst. It remains to hope that the halves of the tank are firmly welded.

According to the initial order, before testing the first thing we will expose the machine to weighing analysis. Especially since Largus with a VAZ engine (hereinafter - Vazolhargus) I got in the sevenstal modification; There is reason to believe that it will be perceptibly harder. I did not guessed: it turned on twelve kilograms. Lighter than my five-seater with Renault engine (hereinafter referred to as Renolhargus). Something else in vehicles and weighing: on the front of the Vazolargus, less accounted for less.

Of course, the masses for the correctness of measurements were equalized; For the same time, during the work, the wheels were changed from the machine to the machine assembly, so that each exercise was performed on the same tires. It was identical and fuel - AI-95. Why? Though for the VAZ-11189 motor and allowed "ninety-second" gasoline, however, the instructions indicate that all the characteristics are obtained on AI-95, and poured it.

Measurement measurements have shown that the results are based on an insignificant second and a half before "hundreds". And the maximum speed of Renolargus by as much as 10 km / h above.

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Largus Engine: Characteristics, Faults and Tuning

Lada Largus is a spacious front-wheel drive universal class "B", created on the basis of the popular Renault Logan MCV model. Initially, the car was equipped with french motors of 1.6 L - K4M (102 or 105 liters.) And K7M 710/800 (86 liters p.). From the beginning of 2016, Largus is equipped with an engine VAZ 11189, replacing them similar in power and volume of cylinders. Imported power unit Renault K7M 710/800. The new Largus engine is a modified version of the VAZ 11186 motor, which aggregated Lada cars: grant, viburnum and prior.

The operational and technical characteristics of the station wagon are largely dependent on which engine is on the car Lada Largus. However, it should be noted that the use of a motor production motor allowed AvtoVAZ to increase the level of car localization to 85%.

Specifications

VAZ 11189 has the following characteristics:

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Parameter
The working volume of cylinders, cube. cm1596
Rated power, l. from. (at 5100 rpm)87
Machi torque, nm (at 3800 rpm)132
Number of cylinders4
Number of valves on the cylinder2
Total number of valves8
Cylinder diameter, mm82
Piston stroke, mm75.6
Compression ratio10.5
Scheme of cylinders1 - 3 - 4- 2
Supply systemDistributed injection with electronic control
FuelNeeterized gasoline AI-92, AI-95
Fuel consumption, l. / 100 km (mixed mode)7
Motor oil type5W-30, 5W-40, 10W-40, 15W-40
Number of engine oil, l3.5
MOTORESURS, thousand hour.200
Weight, kg112

The engine was installed on Lada: Vesta and Largus.

Description

The new engine Lada Largus VAZ 11189 completes the line of power aggregates VAZ: 21083 - 21114 - 21116 - 11186.

Structurally is the same inline injector 4-cylinder engine with the upper arrangement of the camshaft. The timing SONC is driven by a toothed belt.

Among the disadvantages of the engine, Lada Largus, professionals note the reduction of the motor up to 200,000 km, as well as the fact that when the drive belt of the gas distribution mechanism is cutting the valve gnet.

In the process of upgrading the motor received:

  • lightweight connecting rod-piston group;
  • automatic tensioner of the drive belt of the gas distribution mechanism;
  • piston cooling nozzles;
  • electronic throttle nozzle of a new generation;
  • metal cylinder head gasket;
  • modern catalytic neutralizer;
  • a new resonator-absorber of noise on the inlet.

Conducted changes allowed:

  1. Increase vibroacoustic parameters.
  2. Increase power.
  3. Bring environmental characteristics to the level of EURO-5 standard.
  4. Reduce fuel consumption.

Maintenance

The engine VAZ 11189 is no different from the standard maintenance of similar vase motors.

It includes:

  • replace oil every 15,000 km run, but not less than 1 time per year. At the same time, it is necessary to pour at least 3.2 liters of oil;
  • check and, if necessary, replace the spark plugs with each oil replacement;
  • periodic inspection of the motor for the detection of motors of motor and transmission oil, as well as coolant. When identifying any defects, they must be quickly eliminated;
  • replacement of the drive belt after a run of 45 ... 60 thousand km.

Fault

Tuning

All 8 valve engines of AvtoVAZ production are tuning through the same schemes. There are no exception and engines of VAZ 11189 Lada Largus.

Tuning motor as follows:

  • Atmospheric tuning without replacing the head of the cylinder block
  1. replace the standard distribution shaft on the shaft "Idle 10.93" or "OKB Dynamics 108";
  2. establish a split gear;
  3. organize exhaust using spider 4-2-1;
  4. install from above the head of the receiver cylinder head;
  5. replace the standard throttle on the valve 54 mm;
  6. configure gas distribution phases.

The qualified execution of these works will allow the engine power to be raised to 100 liters. from. After finalizing the head of the cylinder block (milling) and setting the lightweight T-shaped valves, it is possible to bring power to 115 liters. from.

Similar results can be achieved if installed on the engine PC-23-1 compressor (pressure 0.5 bar) and distribution shaft "I need 10.42 or 10.63".

  • Installing a turbine

The easiest way to turbine 8 valve engines VAZ 11189 is the use of whales based on the Garrett turbine 17. By installing such a kit, you can increase the power of the power unit to 130 liters. from.

There are other ways to install the turbine, but they are distinguished by a large amount of work and high cost. In addition, the 8 valve engines during turbocharging are very sensitive to detonation, which ultimately leads to a significant reduction in the motor testing and the need for expensive repairs.

The optimal solution that will allow without problems to raise the power of the VAZ engine 11189 to 180 liters. p., is the replacement of the 8 valve cylinder head of the 16-valve cylinder head. After that, any of the previously described methods can be used for the motor tuning.

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What engine is standing on Largus?

Introduction

Lada Largus is the most striking representative of domestic minivans, which, according to the Avtostat news agency, took the first position in terms of sales in his class from January to August 2016. The popularity of this model increases not only in Russia and the Middle abroad, but even in Germany.

A little about models

Undoubtedly, each car has its advantages and cons, there are also in Lada Largus. Many confuse the fact that the car is domestic, but representatives of the Board of Directors of the automaker, as well as European experts argue, the quality of the car and its assembly meets European standards.


Each engine will have its advantages and disadvantages.

The Largus model itself was released in 2012. With access to the market, its popularity began to grow. The minivan was created on the Nissan-Renault platform and combined aesthetics, grace and practicality. Good capacity and good permeability were only on hand to manufacturers to increase those who wish to purchase this car. The car model was presented in two variations: passenger and cargo. If the characteristics of the freight variant, by definition, are directed to the load capacity, the fortress of the suspension, "endurance" during the transport of heavy loads. In the passenger modification, the emphasis goes to comfort, internal decoration, smoothness and speed.

In the development of engines, the mass of factors was taken into account, including the main ones were far from ideal for any car climatic conditions, including winter strong frosts with high humidity, sharp temperature differences. Also important aspect are the road conditions themselves. Not everywhere can be harmless to move along the roads, especially in the regions distant from the capital.

The dimensional characteristics of the car are as follows: The body length is 4.45 meters, the width is 1.74 meters, and the height is 1.63 meters. The trunk in each model is very spacious, its volume is about 560 liters. Passenger cars also have a good capacity. They can easily accommodate from five to seven people.

Types of Engines Lada Largus

It is necessary to consider the options for the motion model range of Lada Largus in more detail so that everyone can determine the most suitable for itself.


1 - air conditioning compressor; 2 - belt drive; 3 - generator; 4 - Pump GUR; 5 - oil probe; 6 - Cover of the GBC; 7 - ignition coil; 8 - tips of BB wires; 9 - GBC; 10 - thermostat case; 11 - exhaust manifold; 12 - water pump pipe; 13 - sensor insufficient oil pressure; 14 - plug; 15 - flywheel; 16 - block of cylinders; 17 - Carter pallet; 18 - Oil filter

Today, depending on the configuration, Renault engines are installed with a capacity of 90 and 105 horsepower. These are two gasoline engines, row versions equipped with four cylinders with a volume of 1.6 liters. The engine in all cars is located in front, across the body.

Eight-smelled engine

The volume of the power unit is 1.6 liters, the power it is capable of developing - 84 horsepower. This unit is often set on the "norm" or "standard" class model.

Sixteenthiliated engine

This engine is slightly more powerful than eight-smelted. Its power is about 105 horsepower. Such units are installed on the luxury type.

Both RENAULT-NISSAN engines function in conjunction with a five-speed manual gearbox. The machine is installed on the Largus model do not plan yet.

"Largusovsky" engines are characterized by high elasticity, and the mechanical gearbox clearly responds to all turning on and off. In order to fulfill confident overtaking, it is quite sufficient from the start of power to engines. Both, eight-flaped and sixteen-particle engines correspond to the ecological standards of Euro 4.

All cars, depending on the configuration, it is possible to install additional equipment:

  • model with manual steering without amplifiers;
  • auto with manual steering control with climate control adjustment;
  • auto with power steering;
  • car model with hydraulic amplifier and climate control adjustment.
  • Some calculations from the technical characteristics of the engine K4M and K7M Largus:
  • fuel: gasoline AI-95 and higher;
  • fuel injection: distributed, with electronic control;
  • engine cylinders: Both motors have 4 cylinders located in a row;
  • number of valves: K4M - 16 cylinders, K7M - 8 cylinders;
  • nominal working volume of the power unit: 1598 cm3;
  • the maximum torque (at which revolutions is reached): K4M - 148 at 3750, K7M - 124 at 3000;
  • oil filter oil volume: K4M - 4.8 liters, K7M - 3.3, liter.

Characteristics K7M

These power units were successfully installed on Renault Logan models, Renault Sandero, and now in Largus Lada. Until 2010, the engine K7M 7100 was successfully produced. After modernization, it came to a change, K7M 800 came to him, which had no difference, and the difference between them was in the number of horsepower, their number decreased (there were 86 "horses", became 83 ). And also the changes affected the environmental indicators. The new engine belongs to the Euro-4 category.

However, the flaws did not go anywhere:

  • Fuel consumption as high and remained;
  • There is a problem with floating costs at idle;
  • Virtually 20-30 thousand kilometers need to adjust the engine valves;
  • Hydrocomathers are missing;
  • The timing belt is recommended to change every 60,000 mileage kilometers;
  • After long-term use, more than 70-90 thousand kilometers may arise with crankshaft salts;
  • The engine is too noise when working;
  • With a long operation at elevated speeds, vibration in the engine can be observed.

If we consider the pluses of the engine, then among them the bright spot is allocated reliability of such power units. By the factory, the engine resource is declared about four hundred thousand kilometers, although in real conditions it can be a little more.

Characteristics K4M.

This motor was also successfully installed and to this day on Renault Logan cars, Renault Sandero. He was also started to install on the richer "\u003e configuration of Lada Largus. Among the bright advantages, unlike K7M, this unit works much quieter, more economical, also does not have vibration during long-term operation.

However, there are still cons:

  • Spare parts for similar elements are very expensive;
  • The timing belt will have to change every 60,000 kilometers, otherwise it will be cut all valves when it is cut;
  • There may be failed failures;
  • If low-quality fuel fell into the car, he immediately reacts on this by floating turns at idle;
  • If the unit is no longer a new one, but a fairly worn - it can trim a little.

Yet if you make a choice between two foreign options, it is best to make it best to make a choice towards a more modern and powerful motor - K4M.

Whose actually engine Largus

Initially, as it was already stipulated, the motors for Lada Largus were produced at the Renault plant in Spain and were supplied to Russia in full assembly. However, now, since December 2015, K4M engines (sixteenthly soldered, one hundred and five strong) are produced at AvtoVAZ concern. Recalling the words director of the project "Power units", the engines are all high production efficiency, undergo a thorough check and comply with the most stringent requirements of European standards. Francois Grazon is confident in the success of this project and is ready to make considerable efforts to further develop new models of aggregates for Russian cars.

According to the statements of AvtoVAZ representatives, all engines meet international standards, the staff constantly passes training and receives additional professional skills in working with new elements. The production control technology has one important aspect: Weekly selected randomly created engine and is tested on several stands, and then disassembled for internal studies.

As mentioned more than once, since the end of 2015, the AvtoVAZ concern began to install on some models of Largus their own developments - 8-valve engines VAZ 11189. These motors have shown successfully until this time in working on models like Lada Grand and Lada Kalina. This engine model is perfectly adapted to the platform in with a separate subframe.

Unlike the French, the domestic engine has a greater number of "horses", 87. The torque is about 140 instead of 124 nm. With a new Russian engine, cars have become several times more economical, the average consumption has become about 8.2 liters per hundred. And one of the most important and main indicators - the cost of "naked" VAZ11189 for thirteen thousand cheaper than the French unit.

Let's summarize

Lada Largus is a modern car that can be represented in various variations and assemblies. In fact, you can put any engine on it, and it will work faithfully for a long time, however, fans more quickly and quiet ride will confidently choose Europeans K4M. All installed engines have some differences, but there will be no global changes and Lada Largus for a long time will be in the lists of ranking leaders on sold cars in their class.

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Lada Largus 2012 after 105 thousand km - journal behind the wheel

May 6, 2017

Time flew time. It seems that only yesterday, Largus passed the running and started in the high-speed 60-hour marathon, and today the number on the odometer has become six-digit. The nature of the car is visible in the first thousands, some nuances of operation appear a little later, and something concrete on reliability can only be said when there are no less than hundreds of thousands of kilometers. So, it's time to talk about the reliability of Largus.

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Over the last report of 40,000 km, our Lada with a Franco-Romanian pedigree has arranged unpleasant surprises several times. However, these faults did not require an emergency elimination, for which Largus is special thanks.

The most curious riddle threw the resulting thermostat. When moving along the highway, the engine started cooling - it was noticeable and on the temperature sensor, and on the cool air from the heater deflectors. Thermostat changed. The original in the nearest store did not turn out, so I purchased an analogue of the ERA company. The engine cooling system again earned properly, but not long - after a few hundred kilometers, the symptoms were repeated. I already, right, began to doubt that the reason in the thermostat, but all the signs persistently indicated its malfunction. In search of a good-quality thermostat, there was internet forums, interviewed the servicemen and sellers - and stopped the product of the product with the famous Gates company. I hope was not wrong. At the very least, already 30,000 km thermostat works without complaints.

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Test Drive Lada Largus

Large budget wagon Renault / Dacia Logan MCV, created on the basis of the Sedana "Logan", appeared in Europe back in 2006. But before Russia, such a car was reached only in 2012 under the name .... Lada Largus!

As for the exterior, Lada Largus looks almost the same as the Romanian-French "donor". The appearance of the car is thought out, simple and quite attractive, without any kind. But this is not the main thing in the family universal, so in this case you want to quickly take the steering wheel, evaluate ergonomics and experience it on the go.

The interior on Lada Largus swinging with Logan almost unchanged. The dashboard ergonomic and functional, the central console is simple, thought out and concludes the main controls. At the same time, ergonomic miscalculations: the front power windows are located on the center console, the rear - between the front seats, the windshield washer is activated separately from the janitors, the seat heating start button is very difficult to find, and the beep is based on the left of the left steering wheel switch.

The car is available in a five or seven-seed version. Sit the front is convenient, lateral support is developed in moderation, the passengers of the rear seat of space is enough, and it is completely worn on the gallery, even though you will not last there.

But most importantly, how the car behaves on the go. For Lada Largus, two gasoline engine 1.6 liters each is available - this is an 8-valve unit, outstanding 87 horsepower and 128 Nm of peak torque, and a 16-valve motor with a return of 105 "horses" and 148 nm. They are combined exclusively with 5-speed "mechanics" and front-wheel drive.

Well, trading on the 87th strong version, everyone will understand - for a large station wagon, the engine is clearly weak. If the motor has a decent traction reserve, then on high revs its potential decreases noticeably. An empty car goes well, however, overclocking him is sluggish both from the place and with medium revolutions, and if you fully fill the salon with passengers, and even download several bags - then the lack of power begins to be felt at every step. When driving around the city, this is not so pronounced, but on the highway is very noticeable, especially when overtook. In this case, the trajectory is better to calculate in advance, and in the rises - and not at all risk. The optimal speed for such a "Largus" is 100-110 km / h, then acceleration flows slowly, and the engine begins to roar noticeably, delivering acoustic discomfort.105-strong surprises engine also does not present. The five-seater version accelerates from 0 to 100 km / h occupies 13.1 seconds, at the sevenstile - 13.5 seconds. Of course, if you drive with an empty salon and trunk, then its capabilities are quite enough for lovers of a fairly active ride. And if you increase the load, it becomes clear that the motor is frankly sluggish, and some noticeable acceleration begins only after the engine promotion for 3,500 revolutions per minute. But it should be noted that even in a fully loaded state, this power unit allows you to keep up with a total stream. But in the nature of the engine, there is a more important feature for a large station wagon - this is an elasticity, thanks to which you can ride on low revs, going around without constant switching. The transfer of the Largus wagon is too short, just like Renault Duster. Most likely, such a move was taken to compensate for a small traction in low revs. And if you go at a speed of at least 50 km / h, then you can not go to the lower gear - the motor is confidently accelerates the hard car on the fifth up to the maximum speed. By the way, the passport "maximum speed" can dial even at full load, it is true that it is not easy. In addition, in this case, the shortage of the sixth transmission is felt - at a speed of 110-120 km / h. The unit is excessively naked. This is due to "appetite", then in Lada Largus with a 105-strong engine, it is rather moderate - on average about 9 liters of fuel at 100 Km mileage.

Front on the Lada Largus wagist installed disc brake mechanisms, rear - drums. With the braking of noticeable problems, there is no car, but the deceleration efficiency and the informativeness of the middle pedal is clearly not reaching such in foreign cars. The "Largus" is surprisingly not bad. Rolls are observed in all directions, but in general it behaves assembled and intended. At normal speeds, the car is understandable and predictable.

But the suspension Lada Largus deserves only praise! It would still, after all, she got him from Logan, while retaining all his energy intensity. The car is ideally adapted to Russian roads. Colds, pits, potholes, bumps, cracks - the car literally ignores them. But still cargo "notes" make themselves felt - on small irregularities the suspension is harsh.

Universal Lada Largus is a car with its advantages and disadvantages. The main advantage of the car is capacity and practicality. Good transformation capabilities are made by "Largus" truly universal: the third row of seats can be removed, and the second fold (or also delete), thereby obtaining a useful amount of more than 2 cubic meters. The energy-intensive suspension is not killed - another large plus in the car piggy bank, as well, and affordable price, excellent maintainability and availability of spare parts.

But not everything is so good, as it seems at first glance. Noise isolation - here is one of the main flaws of Lada Largus. Especially its lack is manifested at high speeds. There are also serious problems with the interior ergonomics, in particular with the location of some controls. The car would not prevent more powerful engines and a 6-speed gearbox. The dynamics does not make it pleases, and the reserve of thrust at full load does not always have enough.

The conclusion can be made one: for your money Lada Largus is a good family car, in which in the first of the "Lad" you feel almost like in a "foreign car".

For a long period before AvtoVAZ, there was a difficult goal - the creation of a balanced car balanced on the consumer qualities. The desire was reduced to the idea of \u200b\u200bthe production of the "workhorse", which would be equally well suited not only for family use, but also showed sufficient efficacy in the field of logistics business.

At the first stage of the implementation of the concept, Togliatti's interaction with the European Giant Renault was traced. Thanks to this cooperation, the universal model of Lada Largus, which was built on the basis of Logan appeared. Many are interested in which engines put on these versions? The platform was chosen correctly, and it turned out to be so successful that it was understood as to build various models, such as: Duster, Sandero, as well as the family of Nissagla.

For the transformation of the Logan in Lada Largus, the developers needed not so much improvements. Much attention was paid only by the chassis and appearance. Let's talk, which engines put on a car.

Motors Lada Largus

What motor is worth? Here the manufacturer also did not rush in extremes and the power units from Logan applied without the shadow of the constraint.

These are two versions of motors with a similar volume of 1.6 liters:

  • 8-valve option "K7M" capable of reproduction of power in 86 liters. from.;
  • its modification "K4M" has a 16 valve engine, the return of which is 105 "horses".

AvtoVAZ introduced his contribution, proposing the power plant "11189", installed on Vesta. Honestly, this motor was installed on a grant, but only here it was "brought" to compliance with the EURO-5 standard.

We have the greatest interest in us "couple" of rival motors: 16 valve engine against the domestic 8-valve unit "11189".

How do the owners speak about the motors of their universal Lada Largus? Today's Internet is overloaded with a variety of information relating to both options for equipping Lada Largus. We tried to choose the most worthy reviews on the intriguing rivalry under review. And also to figure out, who has what motor is?

Reviews of car owners

Alexey Radishchev, Nizhny Novgorod, compares Kalina with Largus in the 16-valve version.

I really fartar. I was the owner of both domestic models: Kalina exploited with an 8-valve motor, and I got Lada Largus with a new 16-valve unit. Having compared, I decided to write a review of my feelings.

By the nature of the activity, I am engaged in construction, so my Kalina is often loaded under the urban. Sometimes it was necessary to load half-bottom. In general, with the "11189" engine, the car is quite sharp, which motor is standing, I think everyone knows, even in the protracted rises, she managed to overtake. 8-valve engine is good. It can be seen that the engineers tried.

For a loading capacity, Largus, of course, wins, but also the weight of this car is more. The car can not be called rewayer. I even fulfilled the chip tuning, but my universal refuses to show jump even in unloaded state. Therefore, I did, as it seems to me, a reasonable conclusion: the borrowed Motor "K4M", though it has a 16-valve "head" design, but it is not capable of riding. Now I think to change Largus to another option. For example, on the same Kalina, but only that was newer.

Innokenty Vinnik, Lipetsk, Kalina 2, Motor "VAZ 11189".

I ride on Kalina 2 for the last couple of years. I live in the village, in connection with which you have to transport a lot of cargo of a different nature. In general, my car is constantly loaded under the urban. I almost never come across in operation with problems. Regulated valves a couple of times. Standard service here does not take into account. For these 2 years, my Kalina "ran" almost 20 thousand. I do not worry for the engine at all, since the 8-valve unit "11189" in the event of a malfunction will not be so expensive. Oil Lew only semi-synthetic.

The neighbor goes to Lada Largus and in general is not very flattering responds about his car. Once he suggested me to ride; The car was not loaded. I was surprised by pressing gas. The speakers are not felt at all. It can be to blame the standard "Euro-5", which forced to modify the motor. If the engine on my viburnum breaks down, then the repair will not hit the pocket. And what to do with a 16-valve unit? There repairs will pull on a decent amount.

Constructive simplicity - here, in my opinion, the main advantage of the power plant "VAZ 11189" in comparison with the French engine.

Stepan Asspensky, Largus with a unit of 1.6 liters. (105 "Forces") 2014, Saratov.

In general, the car is not bad and will delight with its capacity. She has one small and unpleasant feature. It concerns fuel consumption. Achieve the declared 6 liters in the country can only only at no more than 60 km per hour. This situation will have few people like, because "tolerate" at this speed on the track is not the most pleasant thing.

The manufacturer stated that the 16-valve variation of the motor is economical, but in reality it is far from the truth. Difficult to immediately say how the scale is needed chip tuning so that the car wonders positive feedback? A decent dynamics is absent. At a speed of about 90 km per hour, the machine "eats" all 9 liters on the "honeycomb" passed. Will not work!

The compressor of the air conditioning system is driven by a motor with a clutch, which also affects the loss of power indicator, and accordingly increases the flow rate.

Alexey Vladimirsky, 5-seater Lada Largus, 8-valve aggregate, Anapa.

Nice when the domestic car is new! It is better expected than a traded foreign car. Considering which engines put. After the transplantation on Lada Largus felt the lack of practical trifles. Although over time you will be bored. This car can be regarded as a good compromise, if it comes to the balance of value with quality.

In the Motor "11189" suits me everything, although the consumption is too much. The results obtained by me in practice are much diverted with those data that the manufacturer represents. If you accelerate to 130 km per hour, then the flow will be at least 10 liters. And it is on an unloaded car. I'm afraid to imagine how the gasoline will "leave" if the car is fully downloaded.

I will say that the 8-valve unit is frankly weak for such a body as Lada Largus. A more productive motor would be appropriate here.

Now about the fifth gear. Some owners write that the engine on it begins to "roar". It noticed that with the magnitude of turns 3000 per minute, the speed is 100 km per hour, and at 4 thousand. Accordingly, it reaches 120 km per hour.