When buying a Toyota Auris, it should be understood that this is a rather specific representative of the compact class. family cars and the first generation, especially in the pre-styling version (until 2010), is partly a “raw” car. Based on customer reviews, most of the “diseases” of the car were the result of flaws in the designers and many of them were “treated” under warranty, and official dealers who valued their reputation could do this even after the expiration date warranty service.
1. Creak brake pads on both axes warranty case for the replacement of these parts. different kind extraneous sounds suspension can also be annoying.
2. Leakage of antifreeze from the engine cooling system caused by a pump defect - replacement under warranty.
3. Defective intermediate shaft steering column — replacement under warranty. The weak point can be considered steering rack, in some cases it was changed under warranty almost on new cars.
4. A roof leak associated with problematic headlining is also treated under warranty.
5. According to the body, the weakest point is the front plastic fenders, which come off due to poor fastening of the clips.
6. Windshield The machine is quite fragile and can burst at any moment. During warranty service, broken glass was replaced free of charge.
7. Creaking of individual elements dashboard in the area of the front pillars is eliminated by pasting with foam rubber or other similar material inner surface details, which is also a concern official dealer. Due to the use of inexpensive materials (cheap plastic), squeaks can also be found in other places, for example, when closing doors and trunk, as well as individual interior components that lose their original appearance, this is especially noticeable on the gear knob.
8. A hotel case is a robotic gearbox, which even on new cars fully dismantles its “whims”. uneven work, spontaneous increase in engine speed and constant jerks were most often eliminated by the dealer already at the first MOT by optimizing the electronic "brains" or by completely replacing them.
9. The clutch of the manual box is also the same high reliability and can fail even at low mileage. As a result, we get a deterioration in dynamics or “unwillingness” to include any of the gears.
10. Regarding power units, then there may be problems with the throttle, in which the machine goes into emergency mode and its speed does not exceed 20 km/h. Besides Japanese motors love fuel High Quality and otherwise, they may start to start or work poorly. 1.4 liter Gas engine 4ZZ-FE is a different story altogether. This motor specially designed for warm European countries, as evidenced by the plastic an exhaust manifold, deformed in frost and preventing normal start.
If you take a car with a robotic gearbox, then immediately check its operation in all modes. There should not be any twitches and jerks, otherwise you will have to deal with the box yourself. The problem with the "robot" is so common that after restyling 2010 year Toyota equipped Auris with an old reliable "automatic", which should be chosen by fans increased comfort. Find out from the owner what was changed under the warranty, and ask them to show the relevant documents, because the car has a lot of diseases. Especially responsibly it is worth approaching the diagnosis of a 1.4-liter engine, many components of which are not repairable.
Toyota Corolla, Auris (Auris), Yaris, Aygo,Verso in 1 day, differently MMT (Multimode Manual Transmission)) . You can contact us both for scheduled maintenance (TO) and in the event of an emergency. emergency. Clutch replacement and other types repair work are carried out with a guarantee, the period of which depends on the nature of the defect repaired and is measured at intervals from 6 months to 2 years.Don't waste your time, call us right now if:
- at the beginning of the movement, when the brake pedal is released, the car, being on a horizontal surface, does not budge;
- untimely gear shifting, both up and down;
- clutch slip occurs;
- sudden knocking out of the gear in a neutral position;
- the appearance of noise in the transmission;
- bumps when shifting (most often when shifting from second to third gear);
- oil leaks detected.
We use dealer equipment and software for diagnostics of robot boxes on Toyota.
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Diagnostic "robot" Toyota.
The Toyota robotic gearbox combines the comfort of an automatic transmission and the price of almost a manual transmission, moreover, it is quite reliable. Problems with the robot are most often associated with the peculiarities of operation and driving. Most breakdowns of the robotic gearbox are determined using computer diagnostics RKPP. According to the codes received, malfunctions of the electrical part, as well as problems in the mechanics, are detected.
Diagnostics of the robot Toyota Corolla, Toyota Auris includes:
- visual inspection;
- checking the performance of the robot box in various modes;
- reading fault codes from the gearbox control unit;
- viewing the operation parameters of all electronic and electrical systems Checkpoint in real time;
- level control transmission fluid and the presence of small metal particles in it, indicating the wear of the parts of the box;
- checking the operation of the gearbox actuators.
Comprehensive diagnostics allows you to accurately determine the nature of the malfunction and determine the most efficient view Toyota robotic transmission repair.
Toyota robot repair service cost
Toyota Robot Clutch Replacement
Our experience, gained as a result of numerous repairs, indicates that the weakest point of the robotic gearbox is the clutch. With significant wear of the driven disk or basket, release bearing and its guide will require replacement, which includes:
- computer diagnostics;
- clutch kit replacement
- prevention of the clutch release actuator;
- initialization of the control unit;
- necessary computer settings and adaptation;
- purge throttle valve(if necessary).
The installation of a new clutch kit is usually accompanied by an oil change in the transmission. New parts after the first lapping quickly change their position, therefore, after replacing the clutch kit (basket, disc and release bearing), we recommend re-adjusting the actuator and initializing and training MMT no later than after 5-10 thousand kilometers.
Adaptation of a robotic gearbox
Replacing the clutch with MultiMode must necessarily be accompanied by the adaptation of the robot Toyota Corolla, Auris, etc., during which the electronic unit control receives the necessary data about the installed parts, since the thickness of the new disk and the height of the basket have changed. Any repair or even disassembly-assembly of the transmission for the purpose of diagnostics, must end with the adaptation of the robot, which significantly extends the uninterrupted operation unit. The procedure for setting up and initializing a robotic gearbox for Toyota vehicles is recommended to be performed every 10 thousand kilometers.
The adaptation of the clutch setting point is carried out using a special scanner and software Toyota Techstream. Carrying out the procedure regularly makes driving comfortable and reduces fuel consumption.
Typical MMT malfunctions and their elimination
If you own one of the Toyota Corolla, Prius, Yaris, Auris, or Aygo vehicles manufactured between 2005 and 2008, then you may have encountered the following problems:
- jolts and jerks when shifting gears;
- delays in upshifting or downshifting;
- jerks at the start and the inability to move smoothly in reverse or forward gear (the car starts moving only in high revs engine).
The occurrence of these symptoms due to a malfunction of the control unit of the robotic box, it will need to be replaced or repaired. There is an express replacement option when you purchase a remanufactured control unit with a warranty, the cost of which is significantly lower than the price of a new unit.
The most common mechanical failure characteristic of Multimode is the wear of clutch parts, which appears as a result long-term operation or aggressive driving style. At the same time, the box goes into emergency mode, for its repair, you should immediately contact our service center.
Intensive car use Toyota Corolla, Auris, Yaris, Aygo or Verso with a robotic transmission leads to wear of the brushes, the appearance of pollution, an open circuit in the electric motor circuit of the actuators, as well as wear gear wheels drives. The malfunction manifests itself in the form of jerks when starting to move from a place, it can be eliminated by carrying out appropriate repair work and replacing worn parts.
The importance of timely repair and maintenance
If the first symptoms of a malfunction appear, you must immediately contact the service center. Postponing the solution of the problem "until better times" always leads to more serious breakdowns MMT, the elimination of which costs the car owner much more. Do not forget about the implementation of preventive measures, scheduled maintenance and adaptation of the clutch box-robot - the key to reliability and long-term operation.
Professional repair of robot boxes for Toyota Corolla, Auris, etc. in the "Automatic Transmission Master" Service.
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In the mid-2000s, many mid-range car manufacturers price segment began to install robotic checkpoints on their offspring. The idea in general is not new, back in the 40-50s of the last century american cars concerns installed a semi-automatic clutch. With development electronic systems vehicle systems control engineers returned to the idea of making manual transmission With electronic control clutch and gear shifting - these gearboxes received symbol"robot".
Today we will look at the robot box on toyota car, its version, which has been installed on cars of the middle price segment: toyota corolla, toyota auris, toyota yaris, since about the mid-2000s.
So what is a robotic gearbox? In essence, the robot is the same mechanics, but it has clutch and gear shift drives installed, they are electric or electro-hydraulic.
The clutch engagement and gear shift drives are controlled by the controller (electronic unit, abbreviated ECU), which receives and processes signals from the engine and gearbox sensors, and based on the sensor readings, the position of the control elements, selects the gear, controls the position of the clutch for starting off and when shifting gears.
We will look at two types of systems that Toyota calls multimode transmission - mmt.
These are the C50A and C53A gearboxes. Toyota cars were equipped with these systems or similar ones: Corolla, Auris and Yaris.
The system consists of 2 actuators:
1. Gear selection actuator - performs the function of shifting gears, on command from the "robot" ECU.
2. Clutch actuator - performs the clutch release function, on command from the "robot" ECU.
Both in the first and second cases, the devices are electromechanical, that is, the actuators have an electric motor and a gear transmission that transmits the moment of the electric motor to executive device(in the case of a gearshift actuator, to the gearbox gear selection flag or the clutch fork control rod in the case of a clutch actuator).
Both mechanisms have position sensors, by which the control unit monitors the current position of the actuating element.
Same for correct operation the control unit needs signals from the transmission speed sensor, the brake pedal position sensor, the parking brake switch, the gear shift unit (the lever in the cabin and the paddles under the steering wheel). The transmission control unit is also connected to other vehicle units via the "CAN" bus and receives the following data: vehicle speed signal, engine torque requested by the driver.
The "mmt" block can also block the start and control the motor torque.
The transmission operation algorithm is quite simple when the driver releases the brake pedal, the car starts off smoothly and starts moving, when the speed changes, the requested torque, or braking, the gears switch in one direction or another, it is also possible manual switching gears regardless of the moment and speed of the car.
In general, the system is quite thought out and reliable, but there comes a time when parts wear or operating conditions, and sometimes just years take their toll and the car refuses to drive.
A red gear lights up on the dashboard, the symbol of the current gear starts flashing or even disappears from the display, then it’s time to talk about typical malfunctions these systems.
With a run of just over 50 thousand kilometers, clutch problems are possible, the malfunction is manifested by the thoughtfulness of the robot, the gears are switched with a long delay, the car may not move, when the engine is started, the “N” symbol on the display flashes and does not light up constantly, the red gear on the display may light up. dashboard, requires repair of multimode transmission - mmt, gearbox - robot. When such a situation arises, you need to contact the service, these symptoms usually do not go away on their own, this is due to the inability to move the clutch fork to a predetermined position or select calibration limits. Unlike many robotic boxes in "mmt" Toyota, the operating range of the actuator (learning, adaptation, etc., etc.) is set once, when installing a new clutch kit or replacing the actuator and does not require additional installations at maintenance. Not everything in this world is perfect, and the control program "mmt" of the first generations had some inaccuracies and was replaced ... The first generation blocks are quite functional, but they require some knowledge and experience from the mechanics and service station diagnosticians to repair the robot installed on these cars. Blocks of the second generation are less capricious and even allow re-initialization during clutch operation without any consequences for the system as a whole. Let's get back to the clutch, when removing the gearbox, mechanics usually find uneven wear clutch baskets, wear on the release bearing guide sleeve, and disc wear from 80 to 100%. With such defects, further operation of the clutch is not possible. As a rule, these defects do not occur during continuous operation of the car, but during operation with long breaks of several months or even years. Due to corrosion of elements, increased wear clutch parts, as a result of uneven wear, seizure of the release bearing, increased load on the actuator and, in the end, complete inoperability of the system, repair is required, replacement of the clutch robot. Because of increased loads the clutch actuator can also fail, as a rule, this is burning or destruction of the motor brushes, breakage or short circuit of the rotor windings ... After replacing the faulty elements (usually the entire clutch kit assembly), the control unit must undergo training procedures, repairing the robot is no more complicated than a simple mechanical box gear, but with its subtleties.
In addition to a clutch malfunction, other malfunctions may occur during the operation of the system, in any case, for the correct diagnosis of the system, it is necessary to have technical documentation manufacturer and preferably a special scanner that allows you to diagnose and train the system. This gearbox control system has 3 learning parameters, 2 of which are learned by the unit during special procedures and one that the unit corrects during operation. The main advice that is given to the owner in the instructions for the car with "mmt" is to avoid long stops with the gear engaged and long driving "in tightness" with permanent job clutch. The advice is quite reasonable. On our own, we add that the gearbox training is performed only after replacing or removing system components, any training during operation is not needed and may even adversely affect the operation of the system. If you are not satisfied with the operation of the checkpoint or the red gear lights up on the panel (checkpoint malfunction stash), you should immediately contact the service station to check the system, if necessary, repair defective element systems. At correct operation without long downtime the service life of the clutch at these gearboxes is from 70 thousand to 100 thousand mileage, there are exceptions and the mileage reaches 200 thousand when traveling between cities.
In this article, Auto Tips will tell you how to solve problems with clutch and in robotic box gears. I talked about some tips for operating Toyota Auris. Manual Multidrive (MMT) used on Toyota Auris vehicles and Toyota Corolla. Otherwise they say Toyota robot. All owners of these Japanese cars ran into a problem rapid wear clutch "Toyota Auris" and "Toyota Corolla". A new car with intensive driving in major city, that is, in traffic jams, problems appear already at 60 thousand kilometers. It should be said right away that there is no direct relationship between mileage and clutch wear. It all depends on where you ride. If you mainly drive outside the city, then clutch wear will be much less than with everyday driving in traffic jams in a big city. On busy city roads, the clutch wears out very intensively. An experienced driver begins to notice that the engine speed increases, but the speed does not increase, as the clutch slips.
This is easy to check in fifth gear by sharply pressing the gas: the speed and speed arrows should move synchronously. If the engine speed increases, but the speed does not increase, then the clutch is worn out.
In the first couples, the dealers “treated” the slippage of the clutch with the so-called initialization, that is, they reset the clutch data in memory. Under the guarantee, they began to install a new MMT ECU unit - 89530-12291, which did not solve all the problems, but was only a half measure. Then a service bulletin came out that forbade initialization.
Then, in September 2009, the final version of the block was released under the number 89530 - 12292. Now there is an analogue of the block 89530-12292, but from a different manufacturer. His number is 04009-31512. Checking which version of the block you have is quite simple: remove the top glove box and read the number on the ECU. Do not rush to change it, it is not the main culprit of clutch wear. AT this case the Japanese made an unsuccessful design of the clutch itself and the actuator (clutch drive).
What exactly is bad? 1. First of all, the clutch control algorithm. Therefore, they used a new ECU 
clutch. It should only be changed if you do not have traction help. 2. Unsuccessful design of the actuator itself. The electric motor of the actuator works in a heavy start-stop mode, and even with a reverse. That is, when the clutch is depressed, the electric motor rotates in one direction (retracts the rod), and when the clutch is turned on, reverse direction(rod extends). The operating current of a small electric motor is 22 amperes!
The collector brushes wear out intensively, the motor overheats. If the current exceeds 22 amperes for more than two seconds, then the ECU resets the transmission to neutral (the N icon blinks on the display) and the car loses speed. The pleasure is below average when the car loses speed on the go and gets stuck in the middle of the road!
Especially heavy mode of the electric motor when the clutch is turned off. (rod retraction). It does this very slowly, the clutch slips, overheats and wears out. (Similar to the actions of an inexperienced driver who keeps his foot on the clutch for too long, slowly releases it.) If the speed of the actuator rod that controls the clutch fork becomes less than 12.2 cm per second, then the ECU again turns off the gear and starts blinking N on panels.
I gave you two reasons why the ECU immobilizes this beautiful car Toyota Auris!
Often this happens and when you try to move off - it does not turn on desired gear. You shift the gear lever to position E, and N flashes on your scoreboard. Toyota Corporation was forced to release a more powerful electric motor to replace it. You can see the motor replacement kit in the photo on the left.
3. But, unfortunately, these are not all blunders and replacing the electric motor also does not solve all problems, it is necessary to replace the clutch release fork and the fork pin, as the grease dries on the finger against which the fork rests and the load on the electric motor increases.
4. And that's not all. It turns out that the release bearing sometimes wedged in the clutch housing, so the clutch housing also needs to be changed. True, dealers, in order to reduce the price of repairs, manage to modify it instead of replacing the housing.
5. This is not limited to problem solving. It is necessary to change the clutch disc (a more wear-resistant disc is replaced), the release bearing (it also wears out quite a lot due to the stupid operation algorithm) and the clutch basket (it all changes as a set).
So, at an authorized dealer, replacing an electric motor (not the entire actuator, but only an electric motor on it), a clutch fork and a clutch pin, a clutch disc, a release bearing, a clutch basket, and finalizing the clutch housing costs 11,397 hryvnia along with the work (discount included). That is about $500. An attempt to save on something will lead to the fact that very soon N will flash again on the scoreboard. Such a replacement will make it possible to drive 60 thousand during the urban cycle. Although experienced driver on the mechanical box travels more than 150 thousand before replacing the clutch, bearing, etc.
6. And one more thing weak spot clutch actuator. I have already talked about the electric motor on it, now I will tell you more about its mechanical part. The bushings wear out on the actuator and the worm gear wedges. A new actuator costs about $ 1,000, so it is useful to know how to remove and repair it.
In the event of a malfunction in the operation of the clutch, it is necessary to read the error code. For this in diagnostic connector(to the right of the hood opening handle) you need to bridge contacts 4 and 13 with an ordinary paper clip.
If there is an error in the clutch, the red gear will flash at the bottom left, this is error P 0810 - it is also 35, (this is a clutch position control error). it will appear like this blinking 3 times, a pause - blinking 5 times, between errors there is a longer pause, and so the repetition goes around in a circle. This P0810 error does not give an accurate diagnosis, there are actually three reasons: the electric motor current is exceeded by more than 22 amperes, the actuator rod speed is less than 12.2 cm per second, or the clutch position is 0.3 mm different from the real one.
You need to start with the diagnosis of the actuator. To do this, it must be removed. Before removing the actuator, we clamp the clutch (adjust the position of the clutch). Starting position neutral, parking brake clamped, ignition off, jumper 4-13 installed.
Turn on the ignition (IG) with the brake pedal released.
Within 3 seconds, depress the brake pedal seven times.
The buzzer will sound 2 sound signal with an interval of 0.25 s.
Press the brake pedal.
While holding the brake pedal down, move the shift lever in the following sequence: N→E→M→+→M→+→M→+→M→+→M→E→N.
Release the brake pedal. Press the brake pedal again.
The buzzer will beep at 0.5 second intervals for the number of times indicated below (the interval between cycles is 2.5 seconds).
1 time when adjusting clutch clamp position (1 period)
NOTE:
- (If the buzzer does not sound, or the buzzer beeps at 1 second intervals (not 0.5 seconds), turn off the ignition and wait at least 15 seconds. Then repeat the steps from the beginning.) Press at least 3 times within 2 seconds brake pedal. The buzzer will emit 2 beeps at 0.25 second intervals. Press the brake pedal. While holding the brake pedal down, move the shift lever to the [-] position. Release the brake pedal. Finish adjusting the clutch position. Switch off the ignition and wait at least 10 seconds. Disconnect the SST from the TC and CG pins of the DLC3 connector. Now you can remove the actuator. The work can be done without a lift. You need an open-end wrench for 12 and a head for 12 with a ratchet, as well as a mirror. Disconnect the negative terminal of the battery. Then plus. We remove the battery. Disconnect the wire harness clamps from the battery deck. Turn out 2 bolts. Disconnect a tube of a radiator from the battery platform. Turn out 4 bolts and remove the battery platform. Disconnect the clutch travel sensor connector and motor connector. Be careful! Don't break the connectors. Turn out 3 bolts and remove a drive of coupling. The two bottom bolts are not visible from above, use a mirror to determine where they are. The two lower bolts unscrew by feel. Note:
- Slowly loosen the bolts. Be careful not to pinch your fingers when moving the clutch actuator against the reaction force from the clutch cover.
- Do not drop the removed clutch actuator assembly or strike it.
- Do not loosen the nut on the stem end.
After assembly, we unscrew the stem to the end outward and return it half a turn. Install the sensor, cock the spring in the sensor (you need to turn the sensor counterclockwise from the bolt holes, and then turn it clockwise until the bolt holes align). When installing the actuator in place, it is necessary to leave a gap of 0.5-1.0 mm between the rod rod and the clutch fork. We connect the connector of the motor and the rod position sensor. We carry out the position of the clamp (see above) Initialization of the clutch. (according to those docs) Adjustment and calibration in motion. (according to those docs). Good luck to you!
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PK ULPLB VHLCH RPOBRJUBM :-)))
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