Vesta timber belt: When to change so that the valve does not bend. Vesta belt timing: when to change so that the valve does not bended what a belt to buy

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Prepare the car to perform work.

Install the car on the lift or on the observation pit.

Turn off the minus battery terminal.

Stop the flywheel from turning.

Head on 17 turn the bolt 1, Figure 1, fastening the damper, remove the washer 2 and the damper 3 of the crankshaft.

Watch the damper attachment bolt.

Remove the device to lock the flywheel (if applied).

We set on the car traverse 1, Figure 2, for engaging the engine, we start the hook 2 traverses in the eye of 3 right fish, and hang the power unit on the right side.

Torxe12 head turn over and remove two bolts 1, Figure 3, fastening the power unit to the right support 2 engine suspension.

We celebrate the marker position of the right support.

The same head turns out two bolts 3 fastening the right support of the suspension of the power unit to the body and remove the right support.

Hexagon on 5 turn out five bolts with washers, and remove the upper protective cover 1, Figure 4.

Turn the same key three bolts and remove the lower protective cover of the timing.

The key on 17 turn the crankshaft for the damper fastening bolt, until the label is coincided with the crankshaft pulley tagged on the oil pump housing.

At the same time, the labels of the camshafts of the camshaft must match the labels on the rear protective lid.

Weaken the bolt 1, Figure 5, fastening the automatic tensioner 2, turning it into 2 - 3 turns, and remove the remote washer and the timing belt from the crankshaft and the timing belt (we use a cape key to 17 and a flat screwdriver).

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devoted to the resource tests of Vesta and Ixrey, the readers of the Autorevoy leave their questions about the two novelties of AvtoVAZ. We answer some of them.

Tell me, please, and in your Ixrea also accumulates water in the doors after the rain or washing? In my car with this trouble.

AR: No, this was not observed. There are only comments to the door sealing: thresholds in crude weather are wet and dirty, and in dry - dusty.

Gennady

I would like to learn about the air conditioner at Vesta: how does it behave, whether it cools in the heat +30 degrees, whether the engine "plant" is in urban environments and on the track.

AR: Cool enough. For example, in the heat of more than +30 degrees, the car stood more than half an hour on the sun (the intake temperature sensor was shown +51 degrees!), And the air conditioning system coped perfectly.

Breuryv Oleg Sergeevich

I am the owner of the car Lada Vesta. When in the morning you have a car and start moving at low speed, a distinct crack is heard for about two seconds. I tried to find a source for a long time and found out that this sound makes up the ABS system (when the fuse pulled out and began to move without it, there was no noise, as soon as I inserted and drove it - it appeared). Tell me, is there such a sound on "resource" cars?

AR: None of our "resource" booms is not observed.

Akutin N.A.

Is there an Xraya detonation of the engine when switching gear? How does air conditioner work on small revolutions (in traffic jams)? Is there a periodically moving machine when starting from the place?

AR: There are no questions to the efficiency of the air conditioning system at low engine speeds. Periodic koltnya "Robot" is yes, such sinning for AMT is found. The car is unevenly rushes, which is similar to the gross pedal of clutch, - but it only concerns a smooth start, with such a dynamic. No detonation when changing gears.

Ateference Viktor Anatolyevich

I would like to know: 11300 rubles - is it one exhaust system pipe or with a neutralizer?

AR: In such a sum, we cost the middle part of the graduation path (the resonator with the bellows coupling). The neutralizer at Vesta is combined with a graduate collector.

Knotov A.V.

Thanks for comprehensive car reports! I would like to know how many thousand kilometers do you need to change the timing belt on the Motor Vesta? There is an opinion that at the priori 126th engine, if not replaced after 45 thousand kilometers, is to trouble. And on new (after 2013) cars of the VAZ family with 16-valve engines need such a replacement in principle?

AR: Vesti engine with index 21129 is the further modernization of the priori engine. The frequency of replacing the renewed drive belt of the timing belt is (according to the factory instruction) every 180 thousand kilometers.

Beckleshov Alexey Borisovich

How well do the rear passenger air ducts work efficiently? Does the legs of sitting in the rear seats in the cold season? The problem is relevant, since, for example, in a grant, passengers are frozen behind.

AR:Vesti really provides for the rear passenger ducts, derived from the front armchairs. By blowing there, and while it is enough. But whether it is enough in a strong frost - it is still difficult to say, winter will show.

Sviridov Konstantin Vladimirovich

Like Andrei Nevelov, I do not like the lack of illumination in the mode of inclusive daytime running lights. Are there any ways to activate the backlight and does AvtoVAZ plan to solve this problem?

AR: The backlight mode of the instrument panel is quite recently appeared. We changed the firmware of the ECU, and now the instrument shield is glowing constantly, changing only the brightness in the day-night modes.

Lyapunov Evgeny Andreevich

Interested in noise insulation in the arches of West wheels. As many people write in the reviews, if the rain passed - then you will have water there (the foam rubbed everything is absorbed). So I wonder if it will rot this matter there?

AR: "Felt" sneakers today are applied on many foreign cars. They protect the wheel arches from noise and from "sandblasting". Water in such feels penetrates, but quite quickly flows and dries. And thanks to the fact that the sneakers themselves breathe well, the arches are better to be better and less rot.

In our case, under them there is no hint of corrosion.

Matveev Anton Vladimirovich

On the forums, the owners of West often complain about the script of the stabilizer bushings and the stabilizer struts, knock in the rear racks. How are things on the test machines? I would also like to learn about the glasses - whether they scratch quickly.

AR: West suspension from the very beginning differed in his noisy character. But we did not fix the back of the rear racks, nor the screenshot of the stabilizer bushings.

Turkish glasses are really soft: the door windows scratch from constant lowering, and the windshield has traces of abrasive wear, although in the stream of Vesta did not go at all.

Replacing the timing belt Lada West Sv Cross is one of the most important procedures that can be attributed to the planned maintenance of the car. The timing belt is made of dense wear-resistant rubber, reinforced by kapron threads. But no matter how strong the timing belt is - he still can break. In the event of a breakdown of the timing belt, the valves will bend for Lada West SV Cross. Repair after the timing belt cloth can be considered "capital", as in most cases the installation of new valves and their guides, as well as pistons, is required. Even with the minimum damage, the motor will have to disassemble and make repairs. And this procedure is not cheap. Therefore, not to fly on a large amount, you need to change the timing belt and rollers in a timely manner.

It is enough just to recall the Lada to the prior, which also had a similar interval replacement of the timing belt. But 90% of all the Prior belt released from the factory went hard to 120,000 km. I think it's hardly at the Vesta changed something for the better. Therefore, the timing belt is better to change not by 180 thousand km, and the maximum of 70 thousand km.

How much will the timing belt be replaced in Lade Vesta Cross Sv?

The rest can be done with your own hands. If you do work on the service, you will have to spend another 1000 rubles for work. We will save at work and make it all with our own hands. So, let's go.

Spare parts for replacing the timing belt Lada Vesta SV Cross

1. timing belt - LADA 8201069699. This is an original number. You can find this item through it through the online store, as well as pick up a duplicate.

The timing belt at Vesta has 132 tooth, width 27.4 mm and a length of 1257 mm. Suitable both on and on.

3. POMP - LADA 211261307010. This is a standard vaz pump. Suitable for Vesta, X-Rey, prior.

Replacing the timing belt Lada Vesta Sv Cross - work

1. First of all, you need to put a car on the handbrake and leak up the minus battery terminal.

3. Install the car on the jack and remove the front right wheel.
4. After that, dismantle the front right liner.
5. Remove the Lada Vesta Generator Belt.

6. The key to 17 "for the crankshaft pulley fastening bolt is so that the top labels of camshafts with recesses on the GRM plastic casing are coincided.

7. The key to 17 "turns over the crankshaft pulley bolt. Schimhen the crankshaft pulley and the restrictive washer from it.
8. Hexagon on 5 "turn the remaining bottom of the leather belt belt. You need to unscrew three bolts - 3 above and 2 below.

9. The key to 15 "weaken the tension roller fastening bolt.
10. Remove the belt and turn away completely both rollers - stretch and water-based.
11. Install the old new rollers in place. The bypass roller can be tightened, non-nyatnya - just pull slightly.
12. Install a new belt to the place of the old. We are convinced once again that the labels are installed correctly. The new belt first dresses the camshaft, then it stretches to the crankshaft gear with the stretch and dresses to the far camshaft (exhaust valves).
13. The puller for locking rings turns the tensioning roller to combine tags and stretch the roller key.

14. We make two crankshaft turns to make sure that the labels did not come down. If everything is worth in their places, you collect disassembled parts back. And check the operation of the engine.

Video Replacing Gram Lada West Sv Cross

That's all! Replacing the timing belt Lada Vesta Cross SV can be considered over.

In the fall of 2015, the Field of the Light "Lad" replenished the top model - the Vesta car produced in the "Sedan" body. Asking the question "Lee valve at Lada Vesta" begins, you need to clearly imagine what engine is talking about: about 1,6-liter Russian or Nissanovsky, and maybe about the latest developing VAZ with the name "21179".



Here, options related to cars produced now either to those will begin to be issued in the near future. Also, an 8-valve motor was developed for Vesta - it is definitely not the valves for sure and will definitely not be installed on top sedans in 2016.

More information about engines that are equipped with Lada Lada Vesta in the material: What motors are installed on Lada Vesta: specifications and their resource!

DVS VAZ-21129, 106 "Force" (valve GNET)

A little story. Motor 21129 is a finalized version of another engine, namely, 21127. The last one when the timing belt climb successfully shifted its valves, although the pistons were made by grooves (Fig. 1). The meaning is that the precision depth was not sufficient: when performing some conditions, the valve "met" with a piston with all the ensuing consequences.

With the transition to a new generation of DVS, that is, to 21129, the design of the pistons was finalized. But the outer form has not changed much, and although the recesses remained, their depth is still insufficient.

The question of Lada Vesta with the engine "21129" is considered here. And the answer turned out to be unequivocal: yes, neut.

In theory, the problem with the bend of the valves is characteristic of all VAZ engines equipped with 4 valves per cylinder. Each new 16-valve "inherits it". An exception is one rarity - DVS VAZ-2112, the volume of which is 1.6 liters. There are recesses made on conscience (Fig. 2).

122-Strong Motor "21179" (Nuts Valve)

According to its design, DVS VAZ-21179 is not very different from the predecessors. The operating volume was increased to 1774 ml, which was achieved due to the change in the length of the piston of the piston: it was 75.6 mm, it became 84.0 mm.

The piston itself is now fitted to the cylinder better than in the engines 21127 and 21129. The distance from the piston finger to the bottom of the pistons increased by 1.3 mm - to 26.7 mm. But the deeper extracies in the bottom did not appear. The GHM mechanism still acts into effect the belt, and with its cliff, no one has canceled the valves.

Now we know whether the valve flashes at Lada Vesta with a 1.8-liter engine. The answer will be the same as for all 16-valve internal DVS VAZ (with the exception of 2112). The problem with the transition to the new generation remained the same. And they do not intend to return to the "heavy" pistons on a vase.

The timing of timber on the engines 21179 is not equipped with one, but by two tensioned rollers. What is done then that the design is less susceptible to stretching the timing belt.

One of the tension machines can jam, but then its function will take on the second roller-machine.

Pistons that do not bend valve

Piston sets for some "old" 16-valves produce third-party companies. These parts are supplied with deep plots. The meaning is that the piston does not take to the plates and the valves could not bend.

Elements of SPGs of different engines (21127, 21129, 21179) have compatibility. But installing pistons from the "old engines" in the Vesta motor does not need:

  • In ICC 21129 after such a "tuning" will increase the losses for friction;
  • If the pistons from the 26th or 27th motor to install in ICC 21179, the working volume will immediately change.

"29th", as well as the "79th" engine of Lada Vesta Gern valve only with "Vaza" pistons. But installing the "tuning" detail, do not wait for the power to increase. And also, applying non-standard elements, you can lower the resource (lose guarantees, get unforeseen consequences).

Nissan HR16DE engine (not anell, there is a chain)

Most of the complete sets with the mechanical gearbox sedan Vesta is equipped with a Nissan engine. This engine is scheduled to be installed on the body: wagon, cross and coupe! Its name is HR16DE, and the working volume is 1.6 liters. Let's look at what the bottom of the piston looks like.

No "deep recesses" is not provided here. Now pay attention to how the timing mechanism is arranged.

The belt with the teeth is not here - it replaces the chain. It is difficult to imagine the two following situations:

  • The chain could jump through the teeth of one or more gear;
  • One of the elements was damaged so hard that the presence of damage led to a rupture.

While the chain remains the whole, the valves and pistons cannot meet with each other so that neither happens to the engine. The only thing that is bad - the chain can jam.

Does Lada Vesta Valve begins with Nissanovsky DVS? The answer "No" would be wrong - the chain rupture is not excluded. But in reality it will be almost impossible to face such a situation. Consider why.

Four well-known facts

Resource indicator for timing chain always exceeds the engine resource. This is the first fact, but it is necessary to fulfill the condition: the oil change must be timely. In general, the chain fails gradually, and this is accompanied by symptoms:

  • Audible ghosts (dragonment) at idle;
  • At the time of the "problematic section", the phases displacement may be observed.

The last defect is detected using computer diagnostics.

From the appearance of any symptom until a complete break of the chain passes a certain time. And in fact, the "defective chain" can work for a long time. It was another fourth fact.

Consequences of the timing belt cliff, video example

It is noticeable that specialists of the vase, working on the new sedan Lada Vesta, set out to ensure maximum reliability and fragility of the model. That is why motors familiar to other alliance cars are in the line of power units. Of course, they have weaknesses, but all the "children's diseases" have long been defeated and according to modern standards, these motors are considered very reliable.

What motors are put on Lada Vesta?

For the novelty there were three power units, two of which are domestic, and one imported:

  1. VAZ 21116 - 1.6 liters, 8 valves, 87 liters. from.;
  2. VAZ 21127 - 1.6 liters, 16 valves, 106 liters. from.;
  3. RENAULT-NISSAN HR16DE-H4M - 1.6 liters, 16 valves, 114 liters. from.

Problems with Motor VAZ 21116

This is a modified power unit of the type of VAZ 21114. The refinement poured into the installation of a facilitated 39% SPG from the company Federal Mogul. The engine is good in that when the timing belt is cut, the valve does not oppress. However, when signs of malfunction are found, it is better not to delay and immediately go to a hundred.

Features Engine design

This force unit has a number of distinctive features:

- the need to periodic valve adjustments;

- frequent replacement of oil filter;

- fast wear of the cooling system components;

- leak oils through poor-quality sealing valve cover;

- Frequent formation of brackets on the receiving exhaust pipe - instead of brass nuts applied steel.

Characteristic malfunctions

Trojection and uneven work - to detect the reason, the compression in the cylinders is required. If in one of them it is noticeably different, it means that the valve rushed. With a minor difference in the indicators, the origins of the problem in the laying are either required to simply adjust the valve. If everything is fine with compression, the reason is to search in the ignition module.

Floating turnover - usually a similar problem occurs on new machines. To eliminate it, you should go to the service center, where it is liquidated under warranty. Otherwise, it is necessary to inspect the vacuum, the throttle position sensor and the idle regulator.

The engine does not heat up to the determined temperature level - the case in the thermostat. In addition, even new components often fail. Consequently, the breakage can be repeated shortly after the replacement.

The noises and knock in the engine - usually the whole thing in the valves that you want to adjust. If the muffled metal buzz is heard, increasing when the accelerator pedal is pressed, the connecting rod bearings or the crankshaft bearings were caught. Such a problem is solved only in the service. The head of the pistons in the cylinders is not excluded. This is also a reason for a visit to the dealer for a hundred.

Problems with Motor VAZ 21127

The VAZ 21127 engine is a slightly finalized and modified power unit VAZ 21126. The differences are to be installed inlet system, equipped with a resonant camera with the possibility of adjusting its volume due to the controlled dampers.

Instead of DMRV, designers installed DDA + DTV, which eliminated the problem with floating turnover. Like the predecessor, this engine also turns the valve when the timing belt is cut.

Features

Owners Lada Vesta need to take into account possible problems, as well as know the options for their solutions:

  1. Unstable work and the impossibility of launch - may be provoked by violations in the operation of the timing, the occurrence of fuel pressure, air seats, the throttle breakdown, as well as a malfunction of some sensors.
  2. Power loss - the cause becomes the burned gasket, resulting in a compression in cylinders, as well as component wear (triurn of pistons, wear of rings and cylinders). However, the owners of the new Vesta such problems are not threatened (at least at the first time).
  3. The range of valve - this problem can be solved by replacing the regular pistons to such a brave type.

Characteristic malfunctions

They are similar to those who are characterized by Motor VAZ 21126.

Veste engine VAZ 21127 can start tall. In this case, the nozzles will be flushing. If this procedure does not help, pay attention to the ignition coils, candles and measure compression. However, it is best to immediately go to a hundred.

It is also possible to warm up to operating temperature. This is usually manifested with a faulty thermostat.

Noises and knocks in the motor can occur due to hydrocompensators, as well as problems with indigenous and connecting rod bearings or pistons. If vibration occurs in the Vesti motor, it is worth writing nozzles and high-voltage wires.

RENAULT-NISSAN HR16DE-H4M

The release of this power unit was launched in 2006. In general, the motor, which is still the most powerful in the Vesti line (yield of the 1.8-liter unit in question), is considered very reliable and able to learn to "Kapitalki" about 250,000 km.

Focused on AI-95, but easily "digest" and 92nd. In addition, a chain is applied in its GDM system, so that it is not necessary to worry about her stretching to worry about the owners of Vesta.

Characteristic malfunctions

Their little:

Motor Vesti can stall - the reason in the breakage of the ignition block relay. And Nissan has already responded to the car because of this. In this case, you will have to buy a new relay for Vesta.

Whistle is characteristic of Nissan's many motors. In this case, Vesti can whistle the generator belt, which will need to tighten or replace.

Vibrations - to eliminate this phenomenon, it is usually enough to change the right airbag of the motor.

Furious ring of receiving pipe - the car starts working louder. It is necessary to replace the gasket.

As can be seen, Lada Vesta will be equipped with proven power units. All their weaknesses have long been known for experience on other models. However, the most fragile promises to become top, 114-strong HR16DE-H4M.

Replacing belt timber car Lada Vesta

Prepare the car to perform work. Install the car on the lift or on the observation pit. Turn off the minus battery terminal.

Remove the drive belt.

Stop the flywheel from turning.

Head on 17 turn the bolt 1, Figure 1, fastening the damper, remove the washer 2 and the damper 3 of the crankshaft.

Watch the damper attachment bolt.

Remove the device to lock the flywheel (if applied).

We set on the car traverse 1, Figure 2, for engaging the engine, we start the hook 2 traverses in the eye of 3 right fish, and hang the power unit on the right side.

Torxe12 head turn over and remove two bolts 1, Figure 3, fastening the power unit to the right support 2 engine suspension.

We celebrate the marker position of the right support.

The same head turns out two bolts 3 fastening the right support of the suspension of the power unit to the body and remove the right support.

Hexagon on 5 turn out five bolts with washers, and remove the upper protective cover 1, Figure 4.

Turn the same key three bolts and remove the lower protective cover of the timing.

The key on 17 turn the crankshaft for the damper fastening bolt, until the label is coincided with the crankshaft pulley tagged on the oil pump housing. At the same time, the labels of the camshafts of the camshaft must match the labels on the rear protective lid.

Weaken the bolt 1, Figure 5, fastening the automatic tensioner 2, turning it into 2 - 3 turns, and remove the remote washer and the timing belt from the crankshaft and the timing belt (we use a cape key to 17 and a flat screwdriver).

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The timing belt is a device that distributes the operation of the drive between the gear pulleys of the crankshaft and the vehicle itself (gas distribution mechanism). It is made from durable rubber, and on the outside it has a toothed basis, with which the movement creates. Replacing the timing belt Lada Vesta is provided by the technological instruction after about 200,000 km drive. However, if the item is made not on all technical standards, the service life is significantly reduced. Consequently, the replacement of the Lada Vesta timing belt, which can be bought valves on the engine in case of breakdown, you need to think in advance.

Does the valve bend when the timing belt is broken?

Many owners are interested in a similar question, because to bend is not so cheap. Specialists respond to him positively. Valve breakdowns occur at most modern car brands, in which the timing belt is used.

The design of the 122-strong motor "21179" and the DVS of VAZ-21129 when the belt break is likely to be able to drive them. Even, despite the fact that grooves were introduced into the piston. The depth of the latter was not sufficient, so the broken belt continued to bend the valves. The creators of Lada Vesta were not tired to replace the piston system, but the problem did not achieve serious progress. By flying timber, everything was not difficult to bend the valve mechanism.

AvtoVAZ product with nissan engines, where the circuit compound is provided, it is not capable of influencing the valves, because it almost never breaks instantly, but fails gradually. The question is oppressed by the valve to Lada Vesta, you have to attribute only to belts.

Replacement algorithm and necessary tools


  1. The car is installed on the lift. After that, a minus terminal on the battery is cleaned, the generator belt drive is dismantled and the starter. After omit the lift.
  2. Traverse is installed on the right side of the motor. With the hook, the engine is lifted. Using the Torx12 heads, we remove a pair of bolts and two more - with the help of Torx, the hexagon is needed to unscrew eight mounts (five tops, three - bottom) on a protective drive casing.
  3. The next stage is radically dependent on the type of engine installed on the vehicle. Therefore, it is necessary to find an accurate matching scheme. Video replacement of the timing belt on Lada Vesta will more clearly tell about these subtleties that are warning from the valve breakdowns. After the belt is installed, you need to adjust the tension and check the system performance.

Replacing the timing of Lada Vesta is a rather painstaking lesson and takes a lot of time in a person who is not a car masters. Many at all can mature a question: a chain or belt? We do not exclude that a more durable device, not seeking to bend, will soon replace the permanent part of Lada Vesta.